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June 5th, 2009
06:32 AM ET

Avlon: 'Wingnut' liberal calls for Obama's resignation

Editor’s note: John P. Avlon is the author of Independent Nation: How Centrists Can Change American Politics and writes a weekly column for The Daily Beast. Previously, he served as Chief Speechwriter for New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and was a columnist and associate editor for The New York Sun.

Ted Rall (L) and Tom Tancredo (R).

Ted Rall (L) and Tom Tancredo (R).

In the wingnut view of the world, there is no accusation too extreme and no problem that can’t be solved with a demand for the president’s resignation. Need new proof? Take a look at this week’s wingnuts – Tom Tancredo and Ted Rall.

The debate over the Sotomayor Supreme Court nomination took an unexpected turn this week, with Republicans on defense after accusations of racism started sounding wingnutty even to some supporters.

Tom Tancredo’s comments were case in point. The creationist former Colorado congressman and self-styled anti-illegal immigrant crusader took to the airwaves and managed to conjure up not one but two howlers in the space of days.

Judge Sotomayor is a member of the National Council of La Raza, the country’s largest Hispanic civil rights organization, which counts among its 300 major sponsors companies like Wal-Mart. Even if you disagree with their prescription for immigration reform, it sounds pretty legit, right? Not in the world according to Tom Tancredo, who took an opportunity on CNN to describe the organization as “nothing more than a ... Latino KKK without the hoods or the nooses.”

KKK comparisons are just short of Nazi comparisons in the hierarchy of out-of-bounds political metaphors. The KKK is the KKK – full stop. Unless there are actual lynchings involved, it’s best to back off.

But maybe Tancredo was just having an off moment, spurred by emotional scars from the immigration debate. He quickly surrendered any benefit of the doubt when he was asked by David Shuster on MSNBC whether he thought “the Obama administration hates white people.” Tancredo couldn’t quite bring himself to sound reasonable even in the face of that logical softball, pausing for thought and then saying “I don’t know.” When incredulously pushed again, Tancredo laid his cards on the table: “I have no idea whether they hate white people or not!”

Really? This would be news to the millions of white people who voted for Obama, let alone the white members of his cabinet and staff – to say nothing of the members of his mother’s family. For all the wingnut hocus pocus during the campaign, (remember the “Obama is the anti-Christ” emails?) the closest to this conspiracy theory was the Pennsylvania McCain volunteer who carved a “B” on her face, claiming she was assaulted by a black Obama supporter. Note to Republicans: Give the obsession with race a rest.


On the left, columnist and talented political cartoonist Ted Rall made something of a milestone for himself this week, by becoming the first figure on the left to call for President Obama’s resignation – because he hasn’t been liberal enough.

"The gap between the soaring expectations that accompanied Barack Obama's inauguration and his wretched performance is the broadest such chasm in recent historical memory. This guy makes Bill Clinton look like a paragon of integrity and follow-through…Obama is useless. Worse than that, he's dangerous. Which is why, if he has any patriotism left after the thousands of meetings he has sat through with corporate contributors, blood-sucking lobbyists and corrupt politicians, he ought to step down now–before he drags us further into the abyss."

The prime area of Rall’s anger at President Obama is his continuity with President Bush on detentions of terrorist suspects. Forget the heat he’s taken for announcing the close to Guantanamo without a plan for what to do with the detainees. And forget the fact that much of Obama’s success in closing the perceived “national security gap” between Democrats and Republicans has been due to his bipartisan national security appointments (most recently tapping New York Republican John McHugh to serve as Secretary of the Army) and centrist policies that have depolarized the debate over Iraq and focused our efforts on stabilizing Afghanistan.

For Rall, the absence of immediate reversal of all Bush national security policies is not just an unforgivable hypocrisy but a sign of something much more sinister: “there is something rotten inside him…Obama has revealed himself. He is a monster, and he should remove himself from power.”

These considered words were offered underneath the subheader, “With Democrats Like Him, Who Needs Dictators?” With dizzy and destructive Democrats like Rall, who needs rabid Republicans?

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of John Avlon.


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soundoff (227 Responses)
  1. Cory

    Brett, you said: "The only thing we are greatest at is self-interest, greed, and killing people in large numbers."

    Spoken like a true B. Hussein Obama supporter. You and your ilk are no better than O'Reilly or Hannity; you just lie on the left side of the spectrum.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:11 pm |
  2. PaulB

    He who does not study the past is condemned to repeat its mistakes.
    BUT
    He who lives only in the past shall never progress past those mistakes.

    History is filled with injustices, incompentence, wars, hatreds (across so many different aspects of humanity, not just race). What is deemed horrible today was a commonplace occurrance, not worth of consideration centuries ago.

    Should we forget the past? No, never. If nothing else it must teach us how to overcome its inequities and problems.

    But should we keep throwing the past up to taint our futures? No, for if that happens then we condemn another generation of living in the past's mistakes.

    You may be Republican or Democrate, a supporter or critic of this or past presidents, a liberal or conservative. But never forget you are also humans, and if there is one quality that separates us from all other beings on the planet, its that we do have the ability to progress, to work together, to overcome differences and difficulties, and hopefully make the world a little better for the children that come after us.

    Put aside your hatreds, for they benefit us not.
    Put aside your anger, for it deprives us of rational thought.
    Put aside your envy, for it blinds us to our true needs.

    Remember, no one gets out of here alive. The only true immortality is the legacies we leave. How do you want to be remembered?

    June 5, 2009 at 8:11 pm |
  3. Bob

    To Kansan, who thinks Obama is going to be a President for 8 years:

    It ain't gonna happen. He's a one-term President. Once the fainting groupies fade away and the media darling stories come to an end, and people actually expect him to get RESULTS, they'll see he's just not that good. I hope he does well, and frankly if he does well he deserves to be considered for reelection. I just don't think he's got that much substance, all hysteria and Obamalove groupies aside...

    June 5, 2009 at 8:10 pm |
  4. Ken O

    It's interesting that this writer came up with all this to bash republicans (wingnuts) with, when this stuff is not one bit different than what democrats (moonbats) have been doing for the last 20 to 30 years.

    "KKK comparisons are just short of Nazi comparisons in the hierarchy of out-of-bounds political metaphors. "

    You mean, like a lot, LOT of moonbats did throughout the entire Bush tenure by constantly comparing him and his administration to Hitler and his fascists? So, what moonbats did for the last 8 years was worse than what's going on now, eh?

    As far as the rest of it, is Mr. Obama a racist? I think the question has been answered more times than necessary by the man himself. All people have to do is LISTEN. Not to the rehearsed tones, pauses and teleprompter enhanced lines of utter BS, but to WHAT HE'S SAYING. Yeah, millions of Americans were fooled into voting for him simply because they were stupid enough to BE fooled.

    The American political process is one of the biggest shames of this country. It's no longer a process we Americans can have the slightest faith in because it's built to elect the person who LIES BETTER THAN THE OTHER PERSON. Who's to blame? We are. We've allowed ourselves to get caught up in double speak, nonsensical, long winded non-answers to simple yes or no questions as we try to 'get to know' a candidate, and we just accept it as normal. It's NOT. It's BS.
    Be ashamed America. Be very ashamed.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:09 pm |
  5. Tavi

    What stupid people we have in this country. Hundreds of years of oppression, aggression, imperialism, slavery and general all around dominance by white men, but put one woman of color in a group of 9 and BAM!! - they are the poor victimized minorities, the world is coming to an end, everyone is against them, everyone is a "racist," insert whine of choice [here], ad nauseum, blah, blah . . . .

    Criticizing white men, or any color of men for that matter if they have been dominating the political landscape for two hundred years, is not "racist." Pointing out that my experiences as a black, or hispanic, or asian woman might sometimes give me a better perspective than a bunch of white men is not "racist." Fools. Get over yourselves and stop whining.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:09 pm |
  6. Neil

    Let get the Joe Biden Wingnut articles now....Does he ever make sense?

    June 5, 2009 at 8:08 pm |
  7. Sam

    He's only been in office a little over 4 months. He hasn't had time to have an effect on anything yet! Republicans deify Reagan, and that economic downturn lasted for years after he took office, bottoming out in late 1982. Now when Obama tries to return us to a Reagan-like tax structure he's called socialist. Just stop it with the labels and try to have an intelligent conversation for awhile.

    And CNN, please stop giving these loons air time.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:08 pm |
  8. Jason

    Regarding my comment above (June 5th, 2009 7:44 pm ET), I would like to clarify why I call Congress murderers, as I forgot to extrapolate on that point.

    Before the Iraq war, Congress voted to give Bush the power to declare war. While the vote won and they gladly gave Bush this power, the vote was unconstitutional because only Congress has the power to declare war. Thus, an amendment to the Constitution was necessary to do what they did. (btw,I am not a Bush basher, just a Congress basher)

    Therefore, a war was never actually declared. You do the math.

    To clarify, I do NOT believe our soldiers are the murderers. They are just pawns in this game like you and me. I am proud of them.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:08 pm |
  9. Margaret

    I find some of the entries here quite amusing. Some guy calling himself a journalist is saying with authority that Obama hares white people. Well, since Obama's mother was white, we can conclude that he's white too (if the esteemed journalist can follow this logic). So does it mean that he hates himself?

    Folks, there's too much hatred in this country. And hatred can lead to some very serious outcomes for our dear country. For the stupid ones who shoot their moouths before thinking about what they are saying, genocide results from hatred. That's all I have to say.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:08 pm |
  10. Kristin

    A lot of Obama's policies are fairly leftist, yes. But there are a few policies that I can think of off the top of my head that aren't. For example, Obama has remained mum about the issue of gay marriage. He says that he's morally against it for religious reasons, and throughout the controversy with gay marriage in California and other states recently, he has remained silent. The health-care reform that he touted during his campaign was fairly leftist, but not nearly as liberal as Hilary's universal health care reform. I think that people view him as being so liberal because the Bush administration was at the very far right of the political spectrum, so anything in contrast seems incredibly liberal. He's definitely a democrat and he's definitely a liberal, but he's not the insane communist some of the people above are trying to make him out to be.

    But from reading the comments above, I'm a little appalled at the ignorance of many of the posts here. Obama's mother's family is white, and his father is from Kenya. I think we can all assume that Obama doesn't hate white people from this fact alone. What's also annoying is the rampant speculation about what Obama is going to do, regardless of what he has done in the past or what he has promised. Some of the comments above are just as "wingnut" as the ones in the story above.

    And seriously, if you're going to post comments on a national news source you should make sure that A) you understand the subject at hand and B) spell things correctly.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:05 pm |
  11. Nadine

    I agree, all you Obama haters on the left and the right take your little group and reside on a island. The rest of us want peace and can live and tolerate those even if we don't look like each other. I know it's time for Jesus to return to earth, you folks are so hateful!!!!

    June 5, 2009 at 8:05 pm |
  12. Todd (not the Alaska Separatist)

    Tom Tancredo rocks. He has done more to damage the Republican party by exposing the underlying racist core of the party than anybody in recent memory. If your goal was the destroy the Republican party, it would be hard to top Tom Tancredo or that dim-witted woman from Alaska who appeals to also to the white-trash wing of party. Go Tom, go! And Ted who? Straw-man wingnut on the left.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:02 pm |
  13. Steve

    Don't ask the media to stop talking about anything. That's a dismal request that wouldn't lead anywhere good. If you don't like what the media covers, tune out. If you don't trust your neighbor to read it without him or her getting stirred up about something you don't like, speak louder about what you do like so your neighbor hears you, too. If they still have their opinion, oh, hi. America. Technically we still have that going for us. We can still have our own opinions.

    Free speech having been cheered for, of course Rall and Tancredo want air time. Lots of people like air time. We all do, obviously. Are they just showmen? Do they really hold these beliefs? Who cares? If they don't, someone else does. Someone else in power. That's why we need them to represent. And, in this case, all the more reason for more of us to represent.

    Okay, okay. Enough on free speech. This article is about calling for the President of the United States to resign. It's what, four and half months since WE elected Barack Obama? Yes, you and I. And you and you. We are a we. Yep, it's a four-year term for a reason. I no longer believe that's the most important job in the world. But I do think it's getting to be a harder and harder job. I couldn't do it. Could you?

    By that measure, Rall is more the wingnut. What kind of superhuman could take that job on platform and however many days into his or her term fuse all the opinions needed to stay on platform? No one. If you think that's possible, wow. Nothing's that simple anymore.

    If I don't know my history well enough, if a President of the United States has ever pulled off a more insurmountable feat than leading us in a time remotely like this, correct me.

    Oh, I live in Chicago. And Mary, I wish what you said offended me. But it doesn't because it's true. So, good for you, except that you left out Illinois politics.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:02 pm |
  14. Jones in CO

    I am a white republican who voted for Obama. I am not fanatical about him nor in lockstep with his policies. That said, he is the right person to be our President. Intelligent beyond comparison to anything my party had to offer. i voted for who would be the best leader of our great country, something other members of my party were unable to see through their blind party loyalty.

    As for Sotomayor, I wish everyone would read the entire 2001 speech and not just latch onto the soundbite. Just google it and learn for yourself, stop being spoonfeed the ignorant hate coming from Limbaugh, Gingrich, Cheney, et al.

    The truth is out there and it is good.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:01 pm |
  15. Bill

    When do we start the recall drive? A lot of us are ready.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:00 pm |
  16. Brandon - Charlotte, NC

    I'm afraid that Obama will become known as the President that signed the ARRA bill into law... and little else.

    Ms. Sotomayer, I think, has tread a *bit* too close to the labels "racist" and "sexist", by her own doing, to qualify for a lifetime appointment to the highest court in the land.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:59 pm |
  17. Sickofidiocy

    Wow, just reading all the people on here accusing each other of being racists, ignorant or something like that on both sides really lends itself to the problem with America, and why I probably will be moving to a country not so full of self important, self obsessed people that are so convinced of their own moral superiority, (IE, the religious right, or the liberals who feel they can comment from high ground because they have a black friend).

    I love my country and served in the US navy, but I cant watch as my country gets destroyed by politicians and people so stupid they can't see that the politicans use the media to control everything. I just hope you people wake up and stop supporting policies that will dig our graves even deeper.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:59 pm |
  18. largefoot

    ED-you are a ramblin kind of a guy. i wish i could decipher your post. all those zeros and the like. you have something going on there but only you know what. i am amazed.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:59 pm |
  19. jon

    Take a good look at the repub party. Remember the rallies that Palin had and the hate that came from it. If Obama was white you would not have heard or seen what we all did. The GOP has turned into the party of hate & fear. They want you to fear the big black man that is going to take your rights away. You hear it everyday on FOX news , Hannity, Beck and Rush. This is why the KKK was so strong and how Hitler got started. We should fight back by boycotting the products advertized on their shows, write letter to those businesses, stop buying newspapers that R. Merdock owns and stop watching shows on Fox.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:59 pm |
  20. mike

    Obama should resign. He has not conclusively proved he was born here in the US.
    The insane amount of debt spending under obama is nothing more than a massive theft. He SHOULD resign.
    Its the liberals that have a judgement problem with this. They seem to think that its okay to 'bend' the constitution a little in order to do 'good' things. If we didnt allow the fed to twist the constitution around, we would be much better off.
    And before you get your panties in a twist, the previous administration was NEOCON, they were in actual fact, liberals themselves.There is nothing conservative about it. Look up 'neoconservative' if you dont believe that.
    I never believed in the 'liberal media' crap before, but since obama was elected and the MSM has drooled over him so much, my eyes are opened and I see the MSM for what it is, a lying, liberal propaganda mouthpiece.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:59 pm |
  21. Independent Thinker

    John Avlon: What do you think "La Raza" means? It does border on KKK ideals.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:59 pm |
  22. harold

    I voted for obama because he is for the little guy, and I am for HIGH taxation and VAST social programs. i admit I do not pay taxes myself due to income but am limited mainly because of all those Doctors, lawyers, nurses, businessmen, teachers, accountants, and homeowners that are greedy, that keep us depressed.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:58 pm |
  23. Patti in Dallas

    Ryden,

    Wouldn't a "TRUE Latino" be from Italy?...and a true "hispanic" be from Spain? After all, 'Hispania" = Spain.

    However, Merriam-Webster says that "Latino" means from Latin (South/Central) America and that "Hispanic" means of or from Spain or Portugal or Latin America.

    On what do you base your uses of these words? Your "point" makes no sense.

    What I have learned from reading your post - beyond your views on racism - is that you either do not know how to type properly or do not know how to construct a sentence properly. It is very difficult to take your criticism of others seriously when the reader must first successfully decipher those criticisms from sporadic/broken English.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:57 pm |
  24. JD

    Funny how you now have to be a wing nut to call for the President to resigne. If it was Bush then that would be different. I love the lefts double standard!

    June 5, 2009 at 7:56 pm |
  25. mireya-bi-racial

    President Obama is the best chance we have in this crisis we're dealing with, and he is doing the best he can with the hand he was dealt.. Not only that, he is trying to bridge the gaps that have divided us all for so long.
    Let's get off our high horses, give him some freaking help, and maybe start focusing on how we can work together to help each other.

    And I would really appreciate it if people would stop throwing the term "racist" around so readily, that's a term loaded with a bunch of implications, and since this country has a white majority: it seems childish and ignorant to feel threatened by the prejudice coming your way. Obama is a wise, educated, and cultured man–he does not hate white people, you weirdos, he's half white!!!!

    June 5, 2009 at 7:51 pm |
  26. squealy

    I just thank goodness that the folks who keep posting ridiculous reasons to be against Obama are in a small minority. To say he is racist against whites is the most ignorant comment I have seen so far. He is half white, for cying out loud! Just b/c you can't "see" that half doesn;t mean it is not there. Are you saying he is racist against his own white mother??? Don't you see how silly you sound?

    June 5, 2009 at 7:51 pm |
  27. JR

    It never ceases to amaze me that the most important thing wrong in this country is evident in many of the posts on this site and any other - an obvious lack of education.

    Horrible grammar, spelling that is at best phonetic, incomplete sentences, arguments that betray the thought process of a six year old, and no real knowledge of world events past and present...it's almost impossible to read most of the comments.

    Some would immediately blame our educational system. True, it has enormous problems, but I'm afraid the real failing is with the American people ourselves. Our culture mocks those who take education seriously and rewards those who proudly display their ignorance.

    I weep for our once-great nation...we're now a bunch of hate-filled, ignorant, self-indulgent and self-centered whiners.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:51 pm |
  28. MB

    Mike, texas...really? a genius compared to Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Eisenhower, Reagan? Really? How about we let him have more than a few months in office before we judge one way or the other. He's done some good but let's face it...his own budget plan admits we will have greater deficits than all previous administrations combined.

    As far as the hate for the GOP from "Progressive, caring" liberals..well people said the Democratic Party was done after the 2002 and 2004 elections and it came back from the ashes, don't count the GOP out too soon. Maybe instead of spreading the hate both sides need to be Americans first and then Republicans or Democrats. Just an idea.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:50 pm |
  29. Aaron

    Wow. It seems the only people leaving comments are the very angry and disillusioned.

    I don't think Obama is a racist. He's half white for christ's sake and the majority of his cabinet is white.

    I doubt Sotomayor is racist. I like that she was picked by Obama because she will help the Supreme Court to represent the diversity of America. The Supreme Court being a bunch of white guys is not exactly a progression for us.

    Oh and Brad. Your kool aide comment was truly demeaning. Grow up man.

    I just don't feel anything when a white person screams racism. Us whites have never actually experienced true racism. Have you ever been called a "cracker?" Never hurt my feelings. Oh, I can't dance???? Actually I can dance... and so what? You've never been truly affected by racism in your entire life, I don't care what you say. Just let progress take it's shape okay.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:47 pm |
  30. Had Enough

    Look I do not care what race the president is or the the people he has chosen to be in his circle. The bottom line is that he is killing us out here. I do not know why the money I earn needs to go to every Tom DIck and Harry. I am tired fo the socialistic ideas and he is putting our troops in danger. I will also never say I am sorry for being a proud American.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:46 pm |
  31. Jan

    Good golly, Miss Molly! The hate and vitriol is only outdone by the illiteracy and ignorance and stupid Fake Noise talking points. I've given up expecting coherent and intelligent discourse in the "Comments" sections on CNN. Most of you need serious therapy, but that won't happen because I doubt any of you can spell "therapy", let alone know what it entails.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:45 pm |
  32. Jason

    Politics is no different than WWF wrestling. Divide up, take sides and cheer for your favorite character this week.

    We need to wake up and see these people for what they are: legal thieves and murderers (Democrats and Republicans alike). They are stealing your money and your future. They do not vote like you want them to. They vote like a small segment of their cohorts want them to. In addition, they do not care about upholding justice unless it benefits them.

    Also, Congress is exponentially more dangerous than any President we will ever have. In fact, Congress is more dangerous than Al Qaeda, as we are not trying to stop the harm Congress intends to do.

    We really need to switch to a one term system. Give every person 6 years to work in government and you are done. No more careers. In addition, you should be required to cease and desist on any business dealings while in Washington. There is no way to be a lawmaker and a business man and not create a conflict of interests.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:44 pm |
  33. Ed Owens

    Like it even friggin matters if the hispanic chick is racist or not. This is still the same supreme court that is slowly making corporate rights more important than individual rights. The addition of one more person who has been hiding out from the real world in the ivory towers of public service where everything is paid for by the taxpayers while the people they make decisions about go to food banks, get ripped off by Wall Street, and can't get medical care like in every other civilized country for the last 100 friggin years. One more overstuffed doofus who thinks they are better than everyone else doesn't mean crap.

    The Supreme Court is just another tool for the wealthy to legitimize their control of everyone else. They occasionally invent schemes like the DOT COM, MORTGAGE, and CREDIT DEFAULT scams and break everyone they can under the pretense that any of them got "hurt". They fire everyone because its "hard times" then hire everyone back with lower pay and benefits. They do this over and over and over and you lemmings kieep arguing about someone who wouldn't think twice about turning any one of you into a slave. Which is their goal ultimately.

    How's that for wingnut theory? You bunch of cowards and sheep!

    June 5, 2009 at 7:44 pm |
  34. JR

    Ya know, someone (preferably a republican) should check out Tancredo's shorts after he has ignobly postulated, maybe he flaps that ugly mouth for self gratification.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:44 pm |
  35. Rodney - Compton

    Can't we all just get along?

    June 5, 2009 at 7:43 pm |
  36. Ron

    The beauty of the Internet and blogs is the exposure of certain types that would have laid dormant with their racist views. Now we see then in full effect.
    On the pick, its interesting that republicans want to play it as racist 'views' but when Bush selected Roberts and co as 'conservatives' it was no issue that their views would help in decisions like abortion, gun laws etc. Otherwise why did he (Bush) not pick a liberal judge if viewpoint was not important. She will be picked and thats that – or the republicans stand to lose more latinos and monirity votes for ever.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:41 pm |
  37. Jack

    No, Avlon, "millions of white people" did not vote for Obama, they voted against Bush. They would have voted for any Democrat, and Obama's election is the proof.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:41 pm |
  38. Ed Owens

    Like it even friggin matters if the hispanic chick is racist or not. This is still the same supreme court that is slowly making corporate rights more important than individual rights. The addition of one more person who has been hiding out from the real world in the ivory towers of public service where everything is paid for by the taxpayers while the people they make decisions about go to food banks, get ripped off by Wall Street, and can't get medical care like in every other civilized country for the last 100 friggin years. One more overstuffed doofus who thinks they are better than everyone else doesn't mean crap.

    The Supreme Court is just another tool for the wealthy to legitimize their control of everyone else. They occasionally invent schemes like the

    June 5, 2009 at 7:41 pm |
  39. BOB

    Ryden, How can someone born in Spain be a Latino when they would be a Spaniard?

    June 5, 2009 at 7:40 pm |
  40. Mike

    Leonard...calm down.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:39 pm |
  41. Patrick

    To Leonard R.: Fox News first.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:38 pm |
  42. tim

    Wow. Louee you are right. Half of these racists can't even spell, let alone write a proper sentence. I am glad there are some who see the good that Obama is doing, and are willing to give him the time he needs to fix the problems in this country. It took me over 2 years to dislike Bush, I wish some of these idiots would give Obama half that. And maybe get a freakin' dictionary. "Just by looks you can read that she is anti- Anglo/Euro- American." Only a racist dope would write something like that. Hopefully that person is old and ready to croak. The world will be a better place without people like that.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:37 pm |
  43. hjs3

    Who let the dogs out?

    June 5, 2009 at 7:36 pm |
  44. johnlennonzhu@hotmail.com

    Obama is a loser... haha

    June 5, 2009 at 7:32 pm |
  45. chris

    good with all his wasteful spending ( called stimulus and bailouts) and the 15 plus czars he named to get past copngress approval and he said nothign of czars thru the 08 campaign so yes he needs to go before he has 100 percent control of our daily lives

    June 5, 2009 at 7:31 pm |
  46. Buddy Gilmour

    I agree with you about these two wingnuts, and it was refreshing to read about some other losers: I've had enough of Rush, Dick and Rove over the past few weeks, they are not funny anymore. Hope CNN publishes more of your writings in the future.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:28 pm |
  47. August West

    June 5th, 2009 7:27 am ET

    Why do mudslingers like Tancredo, Buchanan, Gingrich, Limbaugh, et al, get so much air time. Isn’t enough that they have Faux “News”?
    _____________________________________________________

    Isn't enough that you have CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, the NY Times, the LA Times........?

    June 5, 2009 at 7:28 pm |
  48. Steve

    Sorry Leonard. I am on the left, and I think CNN is far right (not as far right as FauxNews though). I shudder to think what your actually belief system is if you think CNN is far left.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:27 pm |
  49. Labanda

    I am so sick of CNN..They are to left and to black.....they are totally racist against whites.

    June 5, 2009 at 7:26 pm |
  50. wolfgang

    aww is cnn offended by the truth kiss his backside a little more,fascist pigs have no right being in news or running this country,get out before you ruin what this country stands for or did til the pigs came

    June 5, 2009 at 7:25 pm |
  51. Ted Rall

    Boy, if I watched John Avlon's video I'd think I was a "wingnut" too!

    Why didn't Avlon talk about the topic of my column–you know, the one he quoted out of context? It was about Obama's plan for "prolonged detention," which came out over Memorial Day weekend and was thus missed by most Americans. Obama wants to radically alter the American legal system, going beyond Bush to deny American citizens the basic right to be tried in a court of law if accused of a crime. Obama wants to allow the government to detain anyone it wants to "prevent" them from committing a crime.

    The New York Times described Obama's plan as sweeping:

    "President Obama’s proposal for a new legal system in which terrorism suspects could be held in “prolonged detention” inside the United States without trial would be a departure from the way this country sees itself, as a place where people in the grip of the government either face criminal charges or walk free."

    Full article here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/23/us/politics/23detain.html?_r=1

    I don't know many liberals or conservatives that would agree with Obama's plan if they knew about it–a plan that makes Barack Obama the right-wing wingnut of the decade–and John Avlon his faithful accomplice.

    June 5, 2009 at 3:53 pm |
  52. SM

    Perhaps these very same people should have called for Bush and Cheney to resign from their positions.

    This is nothing but a witch hunt because President Obama is part African American.

    June 5, 2009 at 3:10 pm |
  53. John

    Wow! It might take longer for the south to come up to speed than I thought...

    June 5, 2009 at 3:01 pm |
  54. Respectful&Hopeful

    What is all this talk about racist and who Obama like and dislike? If everyone stop and take a moment to think, you will relized that we are all racist in some form or matter and to think otherwise is fooling oneself. Noone can tell me that he/she have not said something or judge someone base on his/her race. Everyone would like to think that it no longer exist yet it does. I guess it must be the new PC thing to do... "act like it doesnt" I voted for Mr. Obama for so many reason but the most important reason is due to change. We has a people & county need this more then anyone really realize. We has a people have became selfest. We no longer look out for our fellow man/woman. I understand that this change Mr. Obama is looking for may not happen in his time of office and should he run again, I will be there to vote for him!!! but we has a people also have to change for 1 man can't do it alone! I sure some will not agree with my opinion, but please remember it is my opinion and I have a right to it

    June 5, 2009 at 2:20 pm |
  55. louee

    The profiles of these two "wingnuts", coupled with most of the comments to this piece, make me despair for America. The blatant racism espoused in some of these comments makes me ashamed for the people who wrote them, and the sad part is, they are too blinded to even see they've screamed racism in neon!

    But I am most ashamed of the left leaning wingnut because I count myself among the left. I find his views to be singularly outrageous. If anyone should resign, it should be he, and his resignation should be from the human race. What a complete idiot!

    All you Obama haters, right or left, are a bunch of extremists who are way out of the mainstream of voters of this country. And all I can say is, Thank God!

    June 5, 2009 at 2:03 pm |
  56. mike,texas

    Obama is a genius compared to any republican administration let alone the last one that destroyed every american principle including the republican principles.

    June 5, 2009 at 1:44 pm |
  57. Wanda

    We are all racist,sexist or whatever in some form or fashion it's not just a black,white,hispanic issue of racism it also other race's,religion,sexually preferences etc. once we all admit we have issues with some group, for whatever reason maybe we can focus on the problems we have in America. we will never cure racism,sexist or any ISM.....Some of the powerful and wealth love to divert attention away from the real issue and watch others fight for crumbs.WAKE UP.

    June 5, 2009 at 1:41 pm |
  58. Kevin Denver Colorado

    Leonard,
    Have you never seen Bill O'Rielly, John King or any other republican pundits on CNN, or do you just parrot what the little red book tells you.

    June 5, 2009 at 1:29 pm |
  59. ModernDadaist

    To address the "Liberal wingnut" mentioned in the article. Their will always be extremist opinions out there and people are entitled to those opinions. Given the nature of his statements in the article is he really fighting for progress or hurting his own party. If Obama does theoretically resign then who takes office? Someone better? Maybe but whoever would take office would be facing the same challenges that Obama is facing now with probably almost the same amount of criticism flung his way and even more based on being a replacement.

    It is the extermist points of view like this "wingnuts" that garner attention. It is that same extremism that applies to race issues. The more extreme a person or entity is the more likely it is to get undeserved attention. It feels as though America is being lead to believe that these extremist views are ones that are held by a greater majority of people, Im gald that most Americans are smart enough to filter through the infromation and make decisions based on their own opinions.

    June 5, 2009 at 1:25 pm |
  60. James Edwards

    It seems that CNN likes to report on drama and what outragious things people say just so they get air time. As far as I am concerned the media tends to report something that should have not been given air time at all and the comment threads supports my contention that I see all the time. Gingrich needs to think and research things before he opens his mouth calling Sotomayor a reverse racist before backing off on his comment. It is the same thing for Limbaugh. I get tired when I hear comments from these personalities that they need to go away if they do know how to have a civil debate. This is one of the reason why I tune out when I hear wedge issues that has nothing to do with the financial problem this country is facing is being played out. (I get this from my sister-in-law when she sends out emails about a divisive wedge issue during the campaign that I simply delete it..)
    Note to Editor: You need to stop giving these wing nuts air time because it is a turn off to everyone.

    June 5, 2009 at 1:23 pm |
  61. HJHaney

    CNN gives the most fair and balanced reporting of the news of any network. That's why their ratings are down. They aren't telling people on the left or the right what they want to hear as with MSNBC or FOX. They just report the news and try to uncover the truth. People don't want to hear the truth. They only want to hear what they agree with.

    June 5, 2009 at 1:08 pm |
  62. Rebecca from Dallas

    I am SICK and TIRED of the extremist comments from both sides! Why can't people let Obama do his job without criticizing his EVERY move? I think that he trying his best to put America back on track with the very ideals this country was founded. He is a true civil servant and I know that things just don't change overnight. Give it a rest already!!!

    June 5, 2009 at 12:59 pm |
  63. Turnabout is Fair Play

    ed June 5th, 2009 11:10 am ET

    Look, I am a reasonable person, not left not right in the middle. However as a journalist I gave you more credit for having some brains. You do not have to be a genius to see Obama hate white people.
    -------------------------

    You are obviously not a genius or even intelligent if you think Obama hates white people. HE IS BIRACIAL, YOU IGNORANT TOOL!!!

    June 5, 2009 at 12:54 pm |
  64. Jon

    Ryden,

    Others have already pointed out every other absurdity and falsehood you shared with us, but I'd just like to add that "True LATINO"S" (work on your grammar while you're at it!) are not all born in Spain! By your apparent definition, you'd have to include all of France, Portugal, Italy, and a few other locales as well. Latin America, by extension, is absolutely no less deserving of the label than Spain is.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:52 pm |
  65. Realistic

    The politicians are winning in dividing us. The political scheme is to first divide and this way they could maintain power. Liberals vs. conservatives is the message they feed us and we buy it.
    The idea that Obama hates white people comes from people whose head is so far up their rear end that even an operation wouldn't get it out. Its sad that stupdity is still prevalent in our society and in our culture but what can one expect, listen to our politicians and political pundits and one can understand.
    Groups like La Razza is not like groups like the KKK or anything like that. These groups focus on a communities that needs assistance and helps minorities achieve goals to better the country we live in by making their lives better. But it goes back to dividing us with stupidity and ignorance and making inflamatory comments to boils our blood and divide us.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:51 pm |
  66. James

    Why are people calling Obama centrist? He supports MANY far left policies. He's for the taxing of health care benefits, and had a closed meeting with democrats on capital hill so they can try to rush it past republicans like they tried to do in the LBJ presidency. He supports the concept of government control in people's lives, he even said that the current deficit spending was uncontrollable and completely flawed! These are the very same policies that he himself advocated! TARP, porkulus, stimulus, you name it he advocated it and then trashes his own policy and throws himself under the bus. Just the other day he made a speech saying that America is a MUSLIM NATION?!? He claimed we had over 7 million muslims in america....we have 1.7 million. Even chavez and castro jokingly said they better be careful because they are going to wake up one day and be more far right than Obama.

    I don't know if John McCain would be making better decisions about our country but he sure as hell wouldn't run around to other countries apologizing for our nation!

    June 5, 2009 at 12:49 pm |
  67. ModernDadaist

    Racism is pervasive and works on a level psychologically that is hard to understand. People genrally group together with people with the same qualities or intrests that they do. Attempting to live in a post-racial world or striving to create one has to allow the acknowledgement that racism does exist.

    It seems niave to think that somewhere in the world racism wont exist in some form or another despite our own efforts to eliminate it. Obama winning the election with votes from across several diffrent cultures (I prefer Culture to Race) is a sign of progress toward the goal of a true mutlicultural (and hopefully peaceful) society that we want American want to be.

    The argument that continually brings up past conflicts in our nations history without presenting any new ideas or solutions to the problems of racism as it affects us today is counterproductive. Not to suggest that we should gloss over history or ignore our past. We should instead be using our knowledge of what has occured as tools to aid us in creating a better future for all Americans and all people.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:45 pm |
  68. Freddie Keyes

    CNN I am asking you to help this world and STOP printing all this hate points. I cannot understand why CNN would continue to air these type of comments. Your business CNN is the news and you know more than anyone else about the WARS steming from hate, kids killing each other because of hate, our senate screaming hate. Please I ask you to stop these thing and focus on the good of this world I am sick of this type of reporting. CNN I know you can do a better job, when you continue to report these type of things evil feed off of them.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:42 pm |
  69. Pamela

    My only answer to the wingnuts:
    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
    You're funny!!!

    June 5, 2009 at 12:32 pm |
  70. Moody

    Tom Tancredo is the poster child of why the Republican party will not be in power for a very, very long time.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:31 pm |
  71. ron

    The more I hear from people like this and some of the posters on this blog, more I am forced to draw the conclusion that republicans are truly just bigots and nothing more.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:29 pm |
  72. tom

    I think there is a little racism in all of us. You watch a boxing match between a Black American and an European and you root for the American. A match between a Black American and a White American who do you pull for?
    When this crap is taken to the extreme like Duke or Limbaugh, or Sharpton it is moronic.
    American people will hate Obama because he is not white and make up excuses and theories that would make Poe's imagination bland. People who have legitimate gripes with Obama are painted with the same broad brush and rightfully so. They fail to distance themselves from the loons.
    If you think Shelby, Graham, and their ilk are not racist you need to move in with Michael Jackson

    June 5, 2009 at 12:27 pm |
  73. Dora

    Leonard Rasmussen, how exactly is CNN far far left is this article is reporting about wingnuts on both sides? Why don't you stop looking at the media through your own twisted political views?

    The right wing is so insane. To them every media outlet but Fox News is "liberal". Uh...no. They're just not conservative. Just because you're not a conservative, that doesn't make you a liberal. It's not all "this or that". Conservatives probably think that the media is biased because reporters on networks like CNN and ABC have some common sense, seem smart, and are not saying idiotic things like the ones on Fox. I guess to them reality and facts have a liberal bias

    @ Ed, WTF? Obama hates white people? Yeah, I guess that's why his administration is surrounded by white people. You're not reasonable or in the middle. What an utterly ridiculous, stupid, and imbecilic thing to say!

    June 5, 2009 at 12:14 pm |
  74. John

    Actually Ryden, Latinos are Latin Americans, meaning the come from Latin America, not European Spain. Latin America consist of the countries south of Mexico.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:08 pm |
  75. Brett

    Just need to clear up the Tancredo thing. As a Colorado resident, you need to understand that he is the FORMER representative from our state. Colorado went to Obama in 2008, we have a Democratic governor and senators. Tancredo does NOT represent the views of our state, or of most Americans. He is just looking for air time, and CNN and MSNBC gave it to him.
    On another note, those of you who feel like criticising our president are probably the same lot who attacked our patriotism when we crticised then president Bush for 8 long years. So NOW you think it is not unpatriotic to go after the president... how typically hypocritical of you. The USA has a lot to apologize for in the world, and if you are too blinded by the messages that we keep telling ourselves (America is the greatest nation and we have the greatest people), you need to open your eyes. The only thing we are greatest at is self-interest, greed, and killing people in large numbers.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:08 pm |
  76. Ken in NC

    Well I am a racist but I am an Equal Opportunity Racist. I hate everyone equally. WOW people let go all the hate. Face up to the fact that the world is changing and if you refuse to change with it then you will be pushed aside and left for the vultures.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:03 pm |
  77. Grant

    I always thought I was pretty far to the right until I started seeing some of the crazy's come out of the woods during the election last fall. Obama has followed a fairly centrist agenda and I think it serves him well. Maybe its what he really believes, maybe its what he knows he has to do to make sure he'll get a second term (especially with the GOP self-destructing). At this time I don't see a single competent republican that will win my vote over President Obama. I wish him well for the future.

    June 5, 2009 at 12:03 pm |
  78. BUTTACAVOLI

    know one cares if he is black or white it's just every time something is done he never denounces that person for racial remarks. but let sean hannity say something about obama and he has to say something.
    hear is a question for everyone if bush would have had howard stern at a dinner and he said something about black people like wanda sykes did what do you think the people would have done. called al sharpton.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:52 am |
  79. BUTTACAVOLI

    what did he correct nothing, he is doing thae same thing bush did. we are still at war and it's not going to end, people are losing there houses left and right, jobs are gone, wait until oil hits 100 a barrell and then he'll say we need to drill. i can't wait for that flip flop.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:47 am |
  80. russell

    What a lot of white's don't seem to pay attention to is, this country was set up for whites by whites , our justice ,education , poitical system was all designed to benefits whites , just go back and look at our history , and if that's not enough , During World War II , when Nazi sailor's and soldiers were captured and bought back to the U.S. as prisoners , they were allowed to eat in resteraunts and have priviledges that black Amerricans could not have , now you tell me what's fair ,whites seem to forget about the horrible things they've done against it's own AMERCIAN citizens ,because our skin color was differnt from there's , now there's a Black PRESIDENT and they are constantly crying fowl at every turn , I happy that Obama is correcting anything and everything to make things faif for everyone ,

    June 5, 2009 at 11:39 am |
  81. John in Ohio

    "Look, I am a reasonable person, not left not right in the middle...You do not have to be a genius to see Obama hate white people."

    You're not in the middle. Or a genius.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:37 am |
  82. John in Ohio

    "Blacks vote for Blacks, Whites vote for Whites, and Hispanics vote for Hispanics"

    I'm a white who voted for Obama. So is my wife. I have a white coworker who voted for Obama. And an Indian coworkers who voted for Obama.

    Not everybody is as racist as you are.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:36 am |
  83. BUTTACAVOLI

    u know what's funny, when black people talk about white people on the news and comedy clubs it's funny when we do it it's called racism.

    I was listening to 97.1 on the radio one day and the girl said now for the white news. and nothing was said. let me start a white radio show ansd say that. or let's have a white college for only white people. watch and see what happens holy hell would break loose.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:31 am |
  84. BUTTACAVOLI

    he'll never get all those white votes again. we are not that stupid. u can only pull the wool over white peoples faces once.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:28 am |
  85. BUTTACAVOLI

    Why don't he just resign, nothing is getting done other than obama running to other countries apologizing to everyone. middle class has gotten NOTHING yet. just big companies getting all this money and promising billions to other countries.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:26 am |
  86. Mary

    Sotomayor is a racist!! And by selecting her to a powerful office Barry should be asked to resign!!

    He selected her because he needs someone like himself that likes Chicago politics!!

    Obama stay in Egypt!!!

    June 5, 2009 at 11:22 am |
  87. Carl

    I am so glad Obama is not falling to the far left. He is a centrist and I support him. Keep up the good work BO.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:20 am |
  88. waylon

    I wish it was 2012 so I can vote for OBAMA again and again and again and again.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:19 am |
  89. Joe in Austin

    why highlight stupid people?

    June 5, 2009 at 11:10 am |
  90. ed

    Look, I am a reasonable person, not left not right in the middle. However as a journalist I gave you more credit for having some brains. You do not have to be a genius to see Obama hate white people. Look at his associations with Wright, the black muslim groups and his position on Istreal. 0Jews and blacks got along great in the 500'0s and 600's0, I would even credit the jews fpor being leaders in the civil rights movements. along came the 7000000000'00000s 0andf d that a0ll chan0ges0, thanks to the likes of jackson and sharfton. O0ba0m000000a000b000000 00000i0000s fron that era and his belife pattern is not far behind.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:10 am |
  91. Kansan

    Hey graceis...Obama is goig to be President for 8 years not 4.

    June 5, 2009 at 11:02 am |
  92. Sue

    Good ole Tom, Lou Dobbs's best friend on illegal immigration. Even Lou should be able to tell what he is, but if you side with Lou, then by golly, the VERY IDEA that there is something wrong with that person is just plain ridiculous. (Tongue in cheek, of course.)

    June 5, 2009 at 10:43 am |
  93. JC

    To Ryden:

    I am a little surprised at the last line of your post: "I just dis-agree with some of these folks who hide behind stories and words that they have to use to justify Their Racism."

    This statement comes immediately after you claim that the "'N' word" would be an appropriate descriptor for "Sharpton, etc". But, oh, you're too polite and "bi-racial" to actually say it. If that's not hiding racism behind one's words or race/bi-raciality, I don't know what is.

    There was more virulent hate spewed in your post than the other or from this article. Being biracial is not a blank genetic check that makes you automatically the most racially sensitive or 'colorblind' than the rest of america. We all have to make the effort to move beyond. You used just as many separatist words as the next so-called "American". As you said, "the only MINORITES in this country are BI-RACIAL CHILDREN and it’s Black Racism that makes them define themselves as Black."

    Ummmm wow. I would definitely look inside yourself for signs of separatism and racism before accusing others. These are not the words of a post-racial ideology... Sorry. Unfortunately, you are just the same as the rest of the people that you say you deride.

    – A Mutliracial

    June 5, 2009 at 10:35 am |
  94. Brad

    Hey Dave, Did you notice she used the same exact words in 1994... from 1994-2001 she had the same exact phrase about Women coming to a better conclusion than men... She just added her race being better than whitey in 2001.... and oh right she just poorly chose her words in 2001, right Obama? She didn't lift the same thought from 7 years prior, she just misspoke...

    Have some more kool aide....

    June 5, 2009 at 10:35 am |
  95. Dave Stein

    What ridiculous people! I don't get how people become so extreme in one direction or another. Also in reference to Ryden – you can't tell how racist is "just by looks." Furthermore Sotomayors actual judicial record is pretty good minus the 32 words and one case out of her whole career.

    June 5, 2009 at 10:22 am |
  96. graceis

    I'm just say'n Get over it! The vote was fair and documented....Obama isthe president until 2012!

    June 5, 2009 at 10:20 am |
  97. Ryden

    Why is it so hard to admit IT IS A RACIST GROUP? Why not just say what all this is leading to? Blacks vote for Blacks, Whites vote for Whites, and Hispanics vote for Hispanics.( Would use the term latin but TRUE LATINO"S are BORN in Spain not hispanic countries like Mexico) The only MINORITES in this country are BI-RACIAL CHILDREN and it's Black Racism that makes them define themselves as Black. I'm all for President Obama but sotomayer is his first dis-appointment. Just by looks you can read that she is anti- Anglo/Euro- American. (White by Racist Terms)
    CNN actually promotes seperatism and prejudice by air silly shows like black in America, or the spanish one thats coming.
    And they are SILLY!
    Why not do American in America. Why not break down the walls that seperate the races like President Obama spoke of in the begining and I mean true spokes persons from the streets of all races not these well to do folks that are always saying they represent their race.
    Discrimination is RAMPANT in all Races not just the Anglo/Euro Community. Its so easy to point the finger when those making accusations are just as much as RACIST as those they make claim against.
    I would never use the "N" word toward people only because it would be a polite word to discibe some folks like sharpton etc. ( My family is of mixed race).
    Thank You CNN for allowing us to post our comments and its a Great News Network.
    I just dis-agree with some of these folks who hide behind stories and words that they have to use to justify Their Racism.

    June 5, 2009 at 8:06 am |
  98. Shag

    Why do mudslingers like Tancredo, Buchanan, Gingrich, Limbaugh, et al, get so much air time. Isn't enough that they have Faux "News"?

    June 5, 2009 at 7:27 am |
  99. Bob

    I'm just say'in my bones have been busted, nerve damage, beat up and tired! I'm at a point I should be retiring. Stop believing in this game and make things change The "Middle Class" is just part of some imaginary system. We are all humans, a species out to destroy and consume. We have NO CLASS! We should be living in peace instead of dividing. Am I the only one with the original Woodstock mentality or has evreyone bought into this system, but I'm just say'in.
    Bob
    Troy, NY

    June 5, 2009 at 7:20 am |
  100. Leonard Rasmussen

    Why doesn't CNN just tell everyone what CNN actual political position is
    CNN may not be far, far, far left, just far far left. Just tell everyone the truth if you can.

    June 5, 2009 at 6:47 am |
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