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June 29th, 2009
09:39 AM ET

Jackson's final moments – what his doctor told police

[cnn-photo-caption image= caption="Ed Chernoff, attorney for Michael Jackson's doctor, speaks to CNN's Kiran Chetry."]

There are new questions today about the sudden death of Michael Jackson. What really happened in his final moments before 911 was called to his home? What exact medications was he taking at the time and who prescribed them?

Joe Jackson, Michael's father, spoke publicly on Sunday for the first time since losing his son. He was on the red carpet at the BET awards telling CNN he has a lot of concern and doesn't “like what happened.”

Dr. Conrad Murray, a cardiologist, was there when Michael Jackson went into cardiac arrest. Los Angeles police interviewed Murray for three hours on Saturday along with his lawyer Ed Chernoff. Chernoff spoke to Kiran Chetry on CNN’s “American Morning” Monday.

Kiran Chetry: What was discussed during the meeting with investigators and you and your client?

Ed Chernoff: Well, generally it was just about the circumstances leading up to the point in time where Michael Jackson stopped breathing. What happened the night before, what happened that day, his history, his relationship with Michael Jackson – that kind of thing.

Chetry: That was a three-hour long meeting. Are there any other meetings with police that they want to have with your client, who they’re saying is not a suspect and it’s not a criminal investigation. They just want to talk to him; maybe figure out exactly what went wrong.

Chernoff: There’s no meeting scheduled. We've let them know we're available to them any time they need us, any questions they have. We have told them that the medical examiner is free to call us. We'll be available to them. If they have any questions once toxicology comes out. I expect they will have some questions and we'll be ready to answer them.

Chetry: Now, was your client, Dr. Murray, aware of what prescriptions Michael Jackson was taking?

Chernoff: Well, yes. I mean, you know, Dr. Murray prescribed certain things to Michael Jackson, as a doctor. He had medical conditions, medical complaints. Now, there have been some questions about whether or not he was taking substances that Dr. Murray did not know about. But as far as we know, Dr. Murray knew what Michael Jackson was taking, knew what he was doing, and kept up with it all.

Chetry: Can you clarify some of the reporting that’s out there about whether or not Michael Jackson was taking narcotic painkillers like Demerol, like OxyContin. Did your client, Dr. Murray, prescribe or administer those narcotic painkillers to Michael Jackson?

Chernoff: Yeah I've heard those rumors. And one of the things we agreed with the LAPD was, although we are not allowed to discuss and we certainly wouldn't want to discuss, the substances Michael Jackson might or might not have been taking. We can say this with clarity – Dr. Murray never prescribed Demerol, never administered Demerol, never saw him, Michael Jackson, take Demerol. And that goes as well for OxyContin. So I think those are just rumors. When toxicology comes back, Kiran, that's going to be all cleared up.

Chetry: All right. And for people who don't know this, they are very, very powerful and addictive narcotic painkillers, both that you mentioned. You talked about how Dr. Murray knew about Michael Jackson's ailments. There are a lot of questions about how a 50-year-old man who seemed okay before, was planning on going on a worldwide tour, then dies, stops breathing and goes into cardiac arrest. Can you explain a little more about what were some of those ailments Michael Jackson had?

Chernoff: Well, it's not appropriate to go into a man's medical history, an embarrassing medical history perhaps, something that ought to be left to the family or to his doctors. But I can say this – there's nothing in his history, nothing that Dr. Murray knew, that would lead him to believe he would go into sudden cardiac arrest or respiratory failure. Nothing – there was no red flag that was available to Dr. Murray, which would have led him to believe he should have died the way he did. It's still a mystery, how he died, to Dr. Murray. It was Dr. Murray, Kiran, as you know, that requested that the family ask for an autopsy, because he needed to know as well, as his physician, what caused Michael Jackson to stop breathing.

Chetry: Speaking of that, the 911 call was released this weekend… One of the questions people have is why was Michael Jackson on his bed and not on a harder surface where CPR tends to be more successful...on a hard, flat surface like the floor?

Chernoff: Right, right. Yeah, he was performing CPR on the bed. When this all occurred it was an emergency situation and the doctor began performing CPR on the bed. He continued performing CPR for 25, 30 minutes. The bed was firm, but that's not how – that's not all – the only reason why the doctor would have performed CPR on the bed. The doctor, at the time he performed CPR, used one of his hands to brace under Michael Jackson's back to provide that support for the compression. Michael Jackson is a very frail man. He was very thin, very small. And the doctor compressed his chest with one hand, braced his back with the other hand. He checked to make sure there was blood flow. There was. He was getting blood. In fact, at the time that he was – that emergency personnel came – he still had a weak pulse.

Chetry: When that 911 call happened, you said he was performing CPR for 25 to 30 minutes. Was 911 called immediately upon discovering Michael Jackson with the shallow breathing or with the weak pulse?

Chernoff: No…not immediately. Dr. Murray is his personal physician. That would be something you would want is your doctor to be available if you were going into cardiac arrest. He was there – especially a cardiologist – he was there to try to revive Michael. When it became clear he could not revive him through CPR, then he sought to call 911. The problem, Kiran, is that in Michael Jackson's home, the phones don't work. There’s no outside line, at least in Michael Jackson's bedroom. So he had to yell for help, get security up and at some point then security called 911. That's the tape we hear.

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  1. Bach

    I've read a comment here that states that MJ was "a grown man". Hmmm, are we sure? I believe he was a CASTRATO, which HINDERS the adult decision making. Look up CASTRATO, it also explains his long lanky appearence and many other things. I am 100% sure that he WAS NOT a pedophile.....most likely asexual. The procedure would have to be done at a very early age....well before the age of consent. Now do we understand why he considered himself Peter Pan?

    That that the sound of Joe Jackson sweating & crying? As he realizes his crime may become public?

    Michael literally gave his "ALL" for his fans. We were honored to have seen this gifted artist during our lifetimes.

    July 23, 2009 at 1:49 am |


    July 8, 2009 at 9:32 pm |
  3. Denny

    someone has been supplyiing Michael with drugs for years..did his nose rot off ,with this drug .You better breath or you get to much co2 in your blood.Then you are in serious trouble....Did he use this sleep drug on children,in his locked, 5 locks on the door ,with a peep hole, special hiding place ,creepy bedroom.Is your bedroom like that ,,,do you have friends with a bedroom like that,,,and it,s not the money to make it that way,,,,it,s what you what to do behind the mask....this story is not over .Think about the whole picture would you LEAVE your child at NEVER LAND ???

    July 6, 2009 at 4:08 am |
  4. kris

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    sad is not the way i feel about micheals death. its more like hurt, distroyed and just plain crushed. i kind of feel like i lost a family member which in a way i did. i dont know what happened the night off his death but the world finding out wouldnt change the fact that it happened. my heart goes out to the family off micheal jackson and i want him to know he willbe truly missed and his music will always play in our heart. r.i.p micheal and to the family God bless and take care

    June 30, 2009 at 2:53 pm |
  5. kris

    sad is not the way i feel about micheals death. its more like hurt, distroyed and just plain crushed. i kind of feel like i lost a family member which in a way i did. i dont know what happened the night off his death but the world finding out wouldnt change the fact that it happened. my heart goes out to the family off micheal jackson and i want him to know he willbe truly missed and his music will always play in our heart. r.i.p micheal and to the family God bless and take care

    June 30, 2009 at 2:52 pm |
  6. Margaret

    What happened to Mr. Jackson is truly tragic! It's so sad to know that with all of his talents, frame, fortune and family, that he really had no one, looking after he and his childrens best interest. These days, anyone can read up on medical terms and purchase a degree and credentials on the internet! If his family was aware that MJ may have been co dependent on pain medication, at the very least, if it were my son, I would ensure that he had a really good credible DR on hand and not just a money hunger, hanger-on. My heart goes out first and foremost to MJ's children and his Mom, katherine. This tragedy, so eerily resembles, the early demise of so many talented, young people, that we've lost!

    June 30, 2009 at 8:15 am |
  7. Artur de Freitas

    I never thought highly of the intellect of the people around Michael.

    June 30, 2009 at 6:21 am |
  8. Glesgagirl

    Why did this Doctor leave? and why did he not take the car?
    He runs away for a couple of days and turns up with a Lawyer. Mmm sounds a wee bit strange and it gives him plenty time to get his thoughts and stories straight. Something strange about this Doctor.

    I hope the Police have spoken with the person that called 911 and what did he see the Doctor do?
    what phone did he use to call 911?

    RIP Michael – You are the Greatest and always will be
    Condolences to the family

    June 30, 2009 at 4:14 am |
  9. helen

    That doctor was so stupid!

    June 30, 2009 at 3:14 am |
  10. TB

    I'm concerned about how there are so many heartless people writing negative comments about Michael. Jesus was a perfect man and was persecuted for all the sins of man. Michael is a HUMAN being that deserves much respect and to live in peace. Whether you disagree with his misguided behavior or his physical dis morphia, he was never born to be perfect. Michael made great contributions to humanity, music, and children around the world. Please be mindful that we all have skeletons in our closet and there will definitely be revealed before GOD on judgment day.

    The Jackson family need prayers and encouragement. My condolences respectfully.

    June 29, 2009 at 9:28 pm |
  11. Jane

    It IS possible that MJ had other ailments. We don't really have a right to know his medical history. Let the toxicologists and detectives do their job, people. As fishy as it all sounds, we don't have all the info, don't have all the expertise, and don't have a right to know his personal business, no matter how we feel about it.

    June 29, 2009 at 9:22 pm |
  12. Alice

    I agree with the majority. CPR is not done on anyone that has a pulse. There is no way possible to perform effective CPR with one hand behind the patient and the other to do compressions. How can you manager the airway. Without effective breaths compressions are useless. This MD although licensed is not board certified in Cardiology. He lacks suffiecent knowledge of his patients health and medication history. Michael deserved better care. This MD bares watching.

    June 29, 2009 at 8:58 pm |
  13. CJ

    This story of what the "doctor" supposedly did is a joke. You would
    think that his lawyer would consult with a real medical person first
    before releasing that statement.
    MJ had a weak pulse, what does that mean? If you are giving rescue
    breaths for someone not breathing, the blood that gets oxygenated
    with these breaths can't get circulated around the body/brain, if the
    pulse is too weak to circulate it.
    The "doctor" (if he really is one) had no clue what to do. First thing you do is call for help because chances are, adult need a defibrillator to save their life. They could have made up a better story than that.

    June 29, 2009 at 7:02 pm |
  14. rosalinda

    i am a certified bls instructor (basic life support for health care professionals). adult cpr procedures: 1) ask while shaking shoulders to revive, "are you ok? are you ok?" 2) no response? shout for help. if no one comes to help, leave the victim and call 911. 3) head-tilt/chin lift; look, listen and feel for breath while watching for chest rise. 4) breathing? give rescue breaths. no signs of breathing? bare chest. 5) move victim to hard surface. 6) with two hands, begin sets of 30 compressions, two breaths until trained help arrives.

    the purpose of calling 911 is 1) to get the aed on the way (arguably way more important than having a "cardiologist" present). without an aed, chances of survival decrease exponentially within 3-5 minutes. chances of survival after 7 minutes, pretty much unlikely. 2) ambulance has meds and equipment not available in an out-of-hospital setting. 3) ems is in contact with physicians, cardiologists, er personnel to advise. 4) er can be set up while ems is on the way.

    i have several questions concerning dr murrays actions. there was no land line? what about a cell phone? where was everyone, security in particular? how would security have been contacted if an intruder were threatening michael jackson?

    mj was so frail the "doctor" was afraid to put him on the floor? but not frail enough to think his condition warrants an in-house aed or at least access to outside communication should there be an emergency situation? so frail it was better to perform ineffectve cpr than break a few bones to save his life? so frail that he performed a full rehearsal for his worldwide tour the night before he died?

    why, where, how did the "doctor" disappear wihout his car instead of, at the very least, following the ambulance to the hospital?

    something isn't adding up!

    June 29, 2009 at 7:01 pm |
  15. JasmineSkunk

    OMG!!! This just keeps getting curiouser and curiouser!! The doctor was only hired ONE month before he's the only one present at the time of Michael Jackson's death!!!!

    And he's not a suspect?!?!?!?!

    June 29, 2009 at 6:35 pm |
  16. Christina Tassone

    Dr. Preston, you are right. By the time I got to the hospital I was in Cardiogenic Shock...I'm very luck because my EF at the time was 32 now is 67. Anyway, the hospital I went to and also worked at is one of a handful in the States that has a "Cardiac ER" dedicated to only chest pain. I had a WHOLE TEAM of nurses and Heart specialists working on me before I EVER got to the OR. One person could NEVER had done what a whole team did.

    June 29, 2009 at 6:23 pm |
  17. Christina Tassone

    um, Andrea Kelly...his family wasn't around when this happened, that's a little far-fetched...don'tcha think

    June 29, 2009 at 6:17 pm |
  18. Ray Preston

    As a doctor, I have to wonder at the delay in calling 911. The lawyer said that the doctor didn't call because he was a cardiologist, OK so let's assume that a cardiologist is just about the best person to have around during a cardiac arrest, but did he have all the medications and tools that would be available in an ER? Then if the doctor had been able to revive his patient wouldn't the patient still need to be hospitalized in an ICU to stabilize and further diagnose what happened?

    I don't care what kind of physician you are, the first thing to do in a cardiac arrest is to get all the help possible. Most major hospitals have a "code team" that responds to cardiac arrests that occur in the hospital. So if a doctor that specializes in dealing with situations like this in a hospital calls for help why didn't Dr Murry?

    June 29, 2009 at 6:14 pm |
  19. KL

    There are situations when you do perform CPR if there is a pulse. If the pulse is too weak or the heart rate is too slow. A cardiologist should be adept at this.

    It is also recommended that one call 911 after 1 minute of CPR or immediately if there is more than one person. No one can provide the most effective CPR for more than a few minutes. This asseertion completely contradicts the American Heart Association Guidelines. The CPR on the bed is riddiculous too. The bracing of the back with the other hand is riddiculous. In all but the smallest babies the chest compressions are to be done wiht one or two hands on a hard surface. The idea is to compress the heart inorder to compress the chest. How would the doctor know there was blood flow with his compressions? That usually requires a second person to fell for a pulse while the other performs the compressions.

    June 29, 2009 at 6:09 pm |
  20. Leslie Fraser

    I was just interested to know why Ms. Liza Minelli seems to think Michael Jackson complained about chest pains before he died. She said on a Larry King interview that an attorney called her two o'clock in the morning to tell her Michael Jackson had died. She went on to say that it was real that he had complained of chest pains so he must of felt something was really wrong. I wonder who he complained to and why he was not examined at that point? How did the doctor come into his home to find him in bed with a faint pulse if he at any time complained of chest pains to someone?

    Leslie Fraser

    June 29, 2009 at 6:05 pm |
  21. Christina Tassone

    I went into cardiac arrest, would never have survived had I not been in the ER. I had a massive MI at 40 and should not be here, TIME WAS OF THE ESSENCE. Had I not called 911 and got to the hospital I wouldn't be here. I don't beleive a word that shady doctor is saying, you DON'T perfom CPR for 30 minutes.
    call 911-----first call for help and most important call
    check for pulse
    check the airway
    perform CPR until the squad gets there and takes over.

    Shady doctor is absolutely covering his rear end and hiding something big.

    June 29, 2009 at 6:04 pm |
  22. Bernadette

    THIS IS TO MEGAN,,,, This forum is about Michale Jackson, Have you ever worked in a nursing home with LPN's. I take offense at your remarks. As should any real Nurse. (Be it a LPN or and RN) It makes me think of you as a very imature individual.

    As for MJ, no one I think will ever know what truly happened, Let the man rest in peace.

    June 29, 2009 at 5:58 pm |
  23. Michael

    Michael Jackson was a sick man, take one look at his last pictures. He was overworked, and could not handle the stress. Look at what his former nanny said, about pumping his stomach out on a number of occasions.
    He was known to be a drug taker, this is no surprise. As far as letting his kids go to his grandparents, you have to wonder why the mother would not want involvement with their upbringing, Keep in mind that Joe Jackson is 80 years of age and his wife not much younger. What kind of a life is that for them? How much longer does Joe and his wife have left also. The kids should be with their biological mother, even the one that is not hers. Keep them together as a unit.
    Don't blame the Dr at all, for anything, blame the family that were never around him and the hanger's on who drained him of his money. Lots of blame to go around.
    The whole works including his family were sponges, just out for the money, Sad sad sad.

    June 29, 2009 at 5:52 pm |
  24. JasmineSkunk

    I do not understand why there are no charges being brought against the doctor. He waited somewhere between 30-40 minutes before contacting 911. He had a phone on his person. The fact that he was a cardiologist and knows CPR is not an excuse. Alot of people know how to administer CPR correctly, and would still realize that a hospital would have equipment that may have saved his life. The story is that he had a pulse but no breath. How stupid is this doctor?

    And what is that lame excuse that he didn’t have the exact address?? WHAT!?!?!? I think if he would have called from his own phone and told them the street he was on and that it was the Jackson residence…the paramedics could have found out where they were WAY BEFORE 40 minutes!!

    I treid to post this before but it just sat there waiting for moderation forever so I tried again.

    June 29, 2009 at 5:51 pm |
  25. Adam

    I have a hard time believing that the doctor didn't have a cell phone. It would have taken two seconds to dial 911 and put the phone on speakerphone. A lot of the details don't seem to add up here.

    June 29, 2009 at 5:50 pm |
  26. christine morrissey can.ont

    i dont no what to say i think im more mad now then i was when i heared the 911 call...alot of ppl are now saying oh they should not look down on the doctor cuz he has a lawyer but look at what his lawyer had to say that the doctor say that he was with michael 30mins b4 a 911 call was made why so long he had his cell phone on him like there are things being said that makes no sence about anything and the doctor not noing the address um from what i heared the doctor has been with michael at his house for 2 months how can you not no the address and even if his story is true and he didnt no it then why not call 911 and say im with michael jackson im his doctor hes not breathing i dont no the address plz someone come hes not responding to what im doing sorry but iv loved michael jackson since i can remember and it hurts me that somethings are not being asked or if they are noone is saying out in they open ...i think his family desirves to no the trusth about what has happend to michael and his kids too i can only hope that the truth comes out and that michael will be at peace that all the bad things people had to say about him in the past just let it go its done and over with the charges were droped...... but to this that i write to you all im just a fan of michael jacksons and i just wish for the truth and hope that it comes out in the end thank you for your time and again my heart goes to his family and loved ones my you be at peace soon michael xoxo

    June 29, 2009 at 5:26 pm |
  27. David Healey

    If you don't believe how thin and frail he was, check out a picture of him taken at Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas recently.

    June 29, 2009 at 5:14 pm |
  28. Cindy

    Hmmmm. Something about that Dr. I read that he is not even Board Certified in his specialities???? I worked in the medical malpractice field for 13 years and most are board certified. Seems he couldn't even perform CPR correctly. How can a specialized physician not perform CPR correctly? Something not quite right with this. When paramedics arrived, he disappears and no one knows where he is? They tow his car away? It seems to me that if MJ had a pulse that a physician would have been able to maintain that pulse until the paramedics arrived. Just my own personal opinion. I wonder if his malpractice insurance company has contacted him....... RIP Michael, I will miss you.

    June 29, 2009 at 5:09 pm |
  29. JasmineSkunk

    I do not understand why there are no charges being brought against the doctor. He waited somewhere between 30-40 minutes before contacting 911. He had a phone on his person. The fact that he was a cardiologist and knows CPR is not an excuse. Alot of people know how to administer CPR correctly, and would still realize that a hospitol would have equiptment that may have saved his life. The story is that he had a pulse but no breath. How stupid is this doctor?

    And what is that lame excuse that he didn't have the exact address?? WHAT!?!?!? I think if he would have called from his own phone and told them the street he was on and that it was the Jackson residence...the paramedics could have found out where they were WAY BEFORE 40 minutes!!

    I'm disgusted!

    Also... I SURE hope that Katherine and the other family members will invite the Nanny to stay with them least for now. It would be terrible to think that those kids would loose them both...

    June 29, 2009 at 5:08 pm |
  30. Diana

    The problem, Kiran, is that in Michael Jackson’s home, the phones don’t work. There’s no outside line, at least in Michael Jackson’s bedroom

    Please explain this - What cardiologist worth his paycheck would be caught in this situation without his cell phone?

    June 29, 2009 at 5:08 pm |
  31. Alison

    I know several things would have have given Michael Jackson more chance last Thursday:

    1) a 911 call made immediately
    2) a correct CPR if he actually needed
    3) an defibrillator (AED) near by
    4) some medication like atropine (to get the heart going) or oxygen given to him

    One thing for sure is that Michael did not get the right treatment right away. Knowing that UCLA medical center is VERY CLOSE to his house it breaks my heart to think that he COULD BE saved. And who knows the event could help wake him up and take better care of himself, for his children's sake?

    The dr and attorney are covering up is so obvious. Also, why on earth they don't SHOUT OUT it's MICHAEL would make a difference too.

    I am so sad for Michael many people love him so much and at his last moment he did not even get the help that even an average person would have got.

    I did not know I cared about him so much...all the injustice before and at his passing makes me very upset.

    June 29, 2009 at 5:07 pm |
  32. Kelly

    I find it hard to believe that the Dr. or anyone else nearby would not be able to use a CELL PHONE to call for help if no phone was wired to the bedroom. Even children have cell phones these days. I would imagine Michael had a way to contact staff from his intercom? Calling 30 mins after CPR began ....not good enough.

    June 29, 2009 at 5:02 pm |
  33. JMLMED

    What ? Im sorry but I was in the medical field and even I know in the crises of respiratory arrest and cardiac arrest there are things to be done and one of the first is to get First responders on the way. Paramedics have the skills to provide true ALS care that the doctor could not have provided unless the room was set up like a er with a Respirator, EKG, and defibrillator. and all the ALS Meds that the er has and paramedics have. This is a sad joke. 30 Minutes to call 911, cell phone providers have cell towers that can narrow down a location and many cell providers have a 911 assist that shows the location to the Call Room/Alarm Room of the Fire Dept. He had a pulse when the doctor found him and it took him 30 minutes in a life threatening emergency to get help. CHARGE HIM WITH MAN SLUAGTER. This is just sad. Unless the house had a crash cart with ALS Meds you call 911 right away. If you dont know the address at least call and say I dont know the address, please narrow it down, sound of your siren and I will do my best to guide you in. This is sad, Michael maybe could have been resusatated. But we will never know now. Michael Rest in sweet peice 1958-2009

    June 29, 2009 at 4:53 pm |
  34. cody

    Sounds like MJ basically hired this "personal physician" so he could remain legally on his pain killers that he was addicted to back in the late 80's. It finally caught up with him, the doctor panicked, and now we have this. If you hire a legal drug dealer as your personal physician and end up dead...can't blame anyone but yourself.

    I find it hard to believe that the doctor wanted him dead considering he was making the most money anyone could possibly make as a personal physician. Sounds like MJ should have done his homework before hiring the guy....or maybe he did do is homework and hired the guy so he could still legally take all of his favorite pain killers. Bottom's a tragic end to a tragic life. MJ was one of the most talented people to ever grace this planet. Loved his music. Hated the fact that he didn't like his own face or skin color, and dangled his baby off a balcony. Neutral on the kids sleeping over all the time...never proven..but either way...stil weird.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:51 pm |
  35. AR

    Many wealthy individuals have defibrillators in their homes, aircraft, etc., and have their staff trained to use them A cardiologist who's only purpose is to live with and treat one patient should have a defibrillator readily available. Redgardless if there was a drug overdose or a heart attack, MJ needed a defibrillator when he went into cardiac arrest. The phones would not be a problem, if the doctor had enough sense to have the defib. available. He was negligent in every respect.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:48 pm |
  36. P.M.III

    Michael Jackson was taken to trial and the jury, after viewing 60 days worth of testimony and evidence, found him innocent of every single charge against him.

    The boy who accused him in 1993 has since admitted that he only did it for money under pressure from his father.

    There is no evidence that he sexually molested children, or abused them in any way.

    The man spent an incredible amount of time and money trying to make life better for a lot of disadvantaged children. Society repaid him by judging him as someone who hurts children – the opposite of what he spent the latter half of his life doing.

    Just because somebody doesn't look, talk or act like you does not mean they have criminal sexual perversions.

    Michael Jackson is just another victim of the blood-thirsty, mob-like mentality that keeps everyone so divided.

    If all it takes to label a person a child molester is to have people point their finger and call them that, then we haven't progressed any farther that the Salem witch trials.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:46 pm |
  37. TS

    I am appalled by some of these obviously racist comments..Michael Jackson changed music for all of our today, would not be the way it is without Michael. "Pop" music would not exist...period! For four decades we owe this man alot!.....Black people please stand together! Please listen to Black media only! We lost one of our own!....and obviously no one appreciates him but us! We miss you one can ever take your place! Tell me who else have contributed $300 million to one! He love this world and all people! Too bad racist people in U.S. won't let him rest in peace!

    June 29, 2009 at 4:46 pm |
  38. Marilynn

    As a cardiologist, shouldn't the doctor have known to put Michael on the floor in order to administer CPR. Every 911 operator would have known to do that. I hope the family can get answers to their questions from the doctor directly and not through the doctor's lawyer. The doctor didn't know what needed to be done. Sounds to me like he is trying to cover his inappropriate reaction to finding Michael unresponsive.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:46 pm |
  39. Linda

    I wonder if the children's biological father(s) will be given consideration in the custody case should there be one. He or they must be out there somewhere.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:45 pm |
  40. charity

    If they didn't have any land line then how did they make the call to the physician & 911? I believe MJ life would've been save if the CPR was perform correctly and the defibrillation was given plus what kind of doctor does not know how to perform CPR especially when your in the Cardiac field.

    If the physician was unsure how to perform a CPR he should have call paramedics immediately. Did he even take CPR courses?

    Whoever that was w/MJ should react more quickly by calling 911. With the way MJ's condition I think he's security or whoever living w/MJ should take up CPR classes just in situation like this happens.

    There should be more investigation w/MJ doctor b/c there is more to this... plus the doctors lawyer would say anything to cover him up.

    Like i said MJ life would have been save if they made the 911 call immediately and why don't the doctor know where MJ live? Never underestimate a brilliant physician ability and he should've known better not to prescribe MJ those drugs he's so caught up in the fame and money and don't have the balls to say NO! They should do a background check on the doctor....

    Rest In Peace MIchael Jackson

    June 29, 2009 at 4:43 pm |
  41. Dhani

    I am amazed at all the so-called experts posting here. First of all, YOU DO perform CPR on someone who IS NOT BREATHING. If this doctor did nothing to try to revive MJ, then all of you would who are criticizing now would still be criticizing him. If you do nothing, then death is 100% certain. We do not know how long it took for 911 to be called. His lawyer stated that he did CPR for 25-30 minutes, not that he waited that long to summon for help. All the facts have not come out yet. It is hard to call 911 immediately if the phones are not working in the house. If that is the case, then he should call out for help to someone else in the house and assist the patient, which his lawyer indicated he did.

    Maybe he did not have the equipment to intubate MJ. You make assumptions on what should be done without knowing all the facts in the case. If he had only done CPR for 5 minutes, then people would complain he should have done it longer. If he signed the death certificate, then that would mean the Medical Examiner could not perform an autopsy.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:42 pm |
  42. Lydia

    To all of you out there, Get a bloody life and let MJ family handle his business.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:41 pm |
  43. RICKY


    June 29, 2009 at 4:39 pm |
  44. JS

    I am a nurse, and it certainly sounds like MJ stopped breathing and ultimately went into cardiac arrest, as a result of narcotics. His personal doctor being at his bedside at the exact moment this happened and waiting to call 911 is a little more than suspect. First of all, in the most basic of BLS training, which the doctor is required to maintain to practice, the first thing you do is shake and shout at the patient, check their ABC's (airway, breathing, and circulation) AND THEN you call 911 BEFORE pulling the patient to a firm surface and initiating CPR. This is the way it is done if a person is found down at home, in a doctor's office, and even the hospital setting. Postponing calling 911 is malpractice. The idea that he placed one hand behind his back and did compressions with the other on a grown man, is ridiculous and would be highly inneffective. CPR has to be administered on a firm surface and compressions are now recommended to be done at a rapid pace. They recommend you do compressions to the beat of the song "Staying Alive". So at the very least, he is guilty of malpractice. Being a physician, especially MJ's personal physician, and knowing his history of using narcotics, the doctor should have opted to give him Narcan ( a medication that blocks opiate receptors and reverses sedation due to narcotic overdose) It is effective but only lasts a few minutes and has to be repeated. MJ may have been his worst own enemy, but this MD needs to be held accountable to the state and the people that issue him a license to practice medicine, which it appears was for sale to the highest bidder for abuses not related to anything associated with healing.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  45. chrissy in CT

    After working in healthcare for 20 years it is beyond me how a physician can practice as a "cardiologist" and not be board certified in that or in his other supposed specialty. I find everything about this situation suspect. We are taught to call 911 and initiate cpr even when we are alone. This man says there was no phone service at the house and he did not know the address. How the hell did he get there then? Can you say cell phone they can triangulate your address even if you cant say it. In the hospital we do cpr on the bed with a BACKBOARD otherwise they should be on the floor. 30 mins? before a 911 call is made is beyond malpractice.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  46. Steven Hirsch

    The statement about Michael Jackson not having a working phone in his bedroom seems irrelevant. Didn't the Doctor or anyone else with him have a cell phone??/ I mean a doctor without a cell phione is extremely odd!!

    June 29, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  47. Maureen

    So many assumptions that everyone makes from how did they finally call out of the house to wanting the doctor to have done something he shouldn't have... It all doesn't have to make sense. This is Michael Jackson we're talking about.

    Yes, he had phenomenal talent and yes he screwed up his life (some argue as a result of his father and early childhood etc.) Let's put things in perspective folks. A lot of people have crappy childhoods and yet live to overcome and a lot don't.

    You can blame a doctor, you can blame his father, but the point of the matter is there are no do overs. He had the ultimate responsibility in all of this.

    Why can't people just wait and hear what they autopsies say in the next several weeks. And...if the private one isn't released...that certainly will be telling won't it? More reality folks!

    I feel sorry for the children. They are the ones who will really suffer in all of this.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:36 pm |
  48. gisele

    I can't believe for the Life of Me, a cardiologist will find a patient not response and will not call for help right away. Upon entering the room , the cardiologist should have scream for help and to cal 911 then proceed to CPR. That is basic. I am disappointed, I stll don't believe his excuse of phone. You know as a cardiologist that 3-5 mins is crucial in a cardiac arrest. Shame on you.

    RN, Gisele

    June 29, 2009 at 4:26 pm |
  49. Donna Borrell

    It seems to be kinda strange that a Doctor dosen't know anything about CPR. Why didn't he call 911 instead of waiting a half an hour. Was he hoping Michael would snap out of it and everything would be ok after injecting him with something he shouldn't have. The truth will come everyone.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:24 pm |
  50. frances

    I pray that Michael has found peace at least. I am sending his family love and hugs and may memories of Michael bring them comfort. In my heart I know if Michael was a child molester, there would be more victims than the ones who were manipulated by there parent's greed to lie on this man. For all of you out there trying to shame this man in death may God have mercy on your souls. RIP Michael

    June 29, 2009 at 4:22 pm |
  51. L V

    Why didn't the cardiologist stay with his patient?...........The doctor didn't have a blackberry or cell on him??.....Very suspicious......How ironic that the parents of Michael get custody of his kids...Where and why hasn't the will been read.?.there are children involved, it should be read soon..the last people who should get M J's kids is his parents......Lots of moving trucks, etc at Michel's house, very sad, very strange........

    June 29, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
  52. bernie

    Did the doctor, not have an emergency kit, oxygen, and an AED in the house? CPR for 25-30 minutes without out calling 911. what happens to the dr's personal cell phone,,,he did not have one? It is impossible to give effective CPR the way the doc states that he an ICU nurse, I will say ....we need truth here

    June 29, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
  53. just me

    i just think that is sucks for the kids and i hope that they get to say who they want to live with. was MJ mother really apart of there lives. i mean here are 3 kids in this and now they have to live with maybe a women they really do not know !!!! poor kids and i think that she is just after he money but then what money from what i have been hearing he was broke. i do not know i just feel for the kids.

    June 29, 2009 at 4:06 pm |
  54. Mushy

    To Everyone
    The best we could all do is not comment on anything and pray that god bless his soul
    May he rest in peace
    More talk is more suffering for the dead MJ and for his mourning family
    Let's just accept he has died and not look for the reasons
    After all, he is a human being and deserves that his privacy is well respected and not breached
    So please, if you do care about MJ, do not talk about his death circumstance any further and let go

    May God Bless his Soul and May he Rest In Peace

    June 29, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
  55. Db

    It's impossible to perform adequate cpr with one hand under the back and one hand doing compressions. That's just ridiculous. If that's what the MD really did, then he's incompetent.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:58 pm |
  56. osondu

    It is sad! In the United States Of America a cardiologist does not know the simple rules of CPR. Even if M.J needed CPR in the given circumstance, you call 911first before you begin. You don't wait for 30min!! The explanation of the arttoney made the matter worse and exposed his ignorance

    June 29, 2009 at 3:57 pm |
  57. Maria Blyden

    Michael Jackson was tormented by the Media when he was alive, and now he is dead he is still being tormented, if there is a thing. This is wrong. Where are the values? Have we all gone to hell with no inner feeling for this man and his immediate family?

    June 29, 2009 at 3:56 pm |
  58. jerry crownover

    I'm just a Veterinarian (lol) and I know not to perform chest compressions with a pulse. Sounds fishy to me. In my opinion this hired "drug dealer" overdosed him and panicked. Also, he just happened to walk in on Jackson and he was not breathing but still had a pulse? Yeah right. Why didn't he ride in the ambulance with Michael to the hospital instead of disappearing into the crowd?

    June 29, 2009 at 3:54 pm |
  59. Kristie

    I have often wondered if he had AIDS. He's been so frial for so long. He has had so many surgeries, possibly blood transfusions. I know they test the blood for pathogens, but whenever you subject yourself to any medical procedure there is always a chance somebody didn't do something they should have done resulting in exposure to infectious diseases. ie: VA patients were exposed to either Hepatitis or AIDS during a scope procedure (can't remember which). But I must say this whole thing of hiring of this financially troubled cardiologist as his personal physician seems suspect. And if his poor judgment on what to do to rescusitate MJ is an example of his medical expertise, it is no wonder he was in financial trouble. I'm sure he didn't have patients flocking to him for his medical expertise.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:50 pm |
  60. Lisa J.V

    Just a few facts: Michael was never convicted of anything, so to those who say he was very likely a child molester, you are speculating on something you know nothing about. Would you like someone to do that to you? What if I said you are most likely trash who never finished the 2nd grade because you made a stupid comment about Michael Jackson? You would not like it, would you? So don't comment on things you don't know. Second, if things don't add up, they don't add up. It has nothing to do with conspiracy theories or anything else. No doctor should resist calling 911 because they want to do CPR on the person, AND nobody does CPR on a person with a pulse. Nobody has a cardiologist unless they have a heart problem, so to say Michael had no heart problem is absurd. How could he be "fine" when, by everyone's account, he was "frail". Those things don't add up. Last, some of us didn't sail through our child hood and teen aged years and beyond. Some of us had problems, and for some of us, Michael Jackson and his music helped us through it. If you were fortunate enough to not have any problems, good for you, but you are in the minority. You always love something or someone who helped you through difficult times, and for some of us, it was Michael Jackson. May God rest his soul and bless his family with the love and peace of Jesus, and may everyone show kindness to a man who wrote and sang about unity, love, generosity, and an end to violence.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:47 pm |
  61. MLH

    I don't know what the attorney was trying to do by giving this interview, but it certainly doesn't clear anything up. If there is a pulse, why do CPR? Assisted breathing, yes, but not CPR. If there is no pulse, CPR is done with both hands interlinked to provide adequate compression. Putting one hand behind the back and pressing with the other isn't going to cut it.

    I'm with Joe Jackson on this one. Something does not smell right here.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:45 pm |
  62. Louis O

    Folks, you get what you pay for. MJ was half a million dollars in debt. The best he could afford in healthcare is a quack. That being so, why do we expect the doctor to be knowledgeable about life saving skills?
    A quack by any other name is still a quack.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:43 pm |
  63. woodyearl

    Its plain and simple. Dr Feelgood came and juiced up Michael. He collapses and the doctor panicked.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:42 pm |
  64. Marilyn

    Michael Jackson was a loving, talented, good-hearted person. Yes, he had some strange qualities about him, but so what, no one's perfect. He loved his kids, family, friends and fans. No one deserves the scrutiny he received, day-after-day. It was wrong. He was accused of something he didn't do, TWICE...No one who loves children and people the Michael did would do anything to harm a hair on anyone's head, no matter how peculiar it may have seemed, it just didn't happen. After the way his father treated him as a child, do you really think he would harm a child? Get real. You people need to get a life and stop the accusations. Let the man be already!

    June 29, 2009 at 3:35 pm |
  65. Mrs. Snowden

    One hand compressions, One hand to support his back, laying on the bed CPR ? ? ? ? ? ? What type of cardiologist is this ? ? ? I'm in medical training and I've never learned if your frail you do not suggest to get the person to the floor if they are in the bed. I've never learned if the person is a certain body frame to use one hand. Two hands are always used for CPR. You wouldn't need to support his back if he was on the floor. And was there a 30 to 2 ratio used ? Was giving him breathes involved to allow oxygen ? The family need to question this CPR technique. This is horrible to hear. R.I.P. Michael Jackson

    June 29, 2009 at 3:26 pm |
  66. Mrs. Illa

    I have to say that I'm really curious as to why the doctor waited so long to call 911 if he was unable to revive Michael within the 24-30 minutes. I believe something went wrong in that bedroom. Has anyone questioned how long did it take the doctor to know when exactly Michael had a weak pulse? This story is so confusing and something seems to be missing. I also believe if the CPR was done accurately, Michael may still be with us. We definately have lost a great man and my prayers and thoughts are with the Jackson family. RIP Michael...

    June 29, 2009 at 3:26 pm |
  67. james mcneil

    Too many celebrities have been killed by drugs, prescription and illicit. When are they going to wake up and try to stay alive? Their doctors don't seem concerned enough, they should be held accountable for the drugs they give to their famous patients.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:23 pm |
  68. zephyr

    Its funny how the people crying out for the world and cnn to move on from this MJ story can't seem to be able to pull themselves away from it. If you're not into this story, then why are you still wasting your time reading up on it and commenting? Get a life.
    The medical issues addressed here are very important to figure out considering that all of us know, or will know someone that has to deal with doctors, hospitals, insurance companies, etc. Medical malpractice is disgusting, and doesn't just affect celebrities.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:20 pm |
  69. Ms T

    Even after his death people still won't leave him alone.... let him rest in peace. let's think how hard this is on his children.... he is pain free, no worries or any cares of this life. he has lived an awesome 50 years...I thank God for the time we've all had with M.J

    RIP MJ

    June 29, 2009 at 3:18 pm |
  70. cody

    Michael Jackson obviously had some MAJOR medical problems and probably some addictions. To assume that his doctor (who was a cardiologist...sign #1 that MJ has serious issues) wanted him to die doesn't make sense. There is not a better paying gig for personal physician on the planet, so if MJ dies....there goes your paycheck.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:18 pm |
  71. Lois

    Hey, it's California. Jacko isn't the only whacko to reside there.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:16 pm |
  72. Bob

    Michael jackson ISN'T dead. I was just behind him at the Burger King in Clayton, North Carolina

    He borrowed a dollar from me to get a dollar to buy large onion rings.

    He said he had to borrow enough money to go to GEngland but I didn't have that much with me.

    God Bless Jesus and Micheal Jackson !!!

    June 29, 2009 at 3:13 pm |
  73. cody

    Mrs. Clark,
    Ever heard of cell phones?

    June 29, 2009 at 3:12 pm |
  74. toto23

    yeah like the doctor didn't have a cell phone RIGHT

    June 29, 2009 at 3:08 pm |
  75. Donna

    i find the doctors explaination somewhat funny, why did he wait so long in calling 911, i am sorry but if someone is not breathing or has a weak pulse then the first thing you do is call 911 then start breathing for the person. As for Joe Jackson, i disliked him and i noticed in his press conference a bit ago that, he plans on keeping Michael's kids and if i got the gest of it, he wants to put those poor kids to work, using their special talent they may have. Which is just wrong, i was hoping the nanny would stay with them, since she was the only mother figure they had besides maybe Michaels mom.

    I think this is a tragic situation for everyone especially Michaels kids.

    June 29, 2009 at 3:06 pm |
  76. CHRIS

    June 29th, 2009 11:23 am ET

    This is the craziest account of saving a person’s life that I have ever heard of. I pray that the family requests more information and gets to the bottom of it!! If a person does have a weak pulse you HAVE TO PERFORM CPR!! just because there is a pulse does not mean the heart is pumping correctly.


    June 29, 2009 at 3:03 pm |
  77. David Healey

    The doctor attempting to revive Michael was not the cause of death; and the doctor is not a paramedic. He tried to revive a patient whom he found collapsed on his bed. This isn't a small house and going to find a phone would take minutes, when time was critical. In addition, we don't know what Michael Jackson's frame looks like, whereas a doctor who examines him regularly probably would. He was thin and frail with probably very low body fat and muscle – this would make it entirely possible to administer cpr to the heart using a hand behind his back. The broken ribs also point to this.

    We've seen Michael Jackson visiting various healthcare clinics in wheelchairs. His hair had fallen out and he has appeared in public wheezing with slurred speech. Don't kid yourself that the man you saw in pop videos 10 years ago was the same man that passed away recently. And he was 50 years old, not a child. If he decided to expose himself to any medication he'd ultimately be responsible. It's not as if he didn't have enough people around him to make him aware of this. Everyone is pointing to drugs, and ignoring the possibility that he was using narcotics to control a much greater pain.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:53 pm |
  78. Debby

    What a circus Jackson's death is just like his life was.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:52 pm |
  79. mjforever

    Hello people! Stress can play a big role in all of this. Even if he did take some painkillers, this man's heart had been broken for a long time. From family members abusing him and disowning him, to accusations of child molestation, to relationships gone bad, and a constant media battle. Can you imagine the stress that this has put on him? His body has been through alot as well. From vitiligo, to plastic surgeries, painkillers, etc... They say that although you can pass a physical, it doesn't mean that you are okay. There is a reason why they call it cardiac arrest. It's because it can sneak up on you, even when you think you are healthy. I thought I had heard a long time ago that he had major respiratory problems. This could be why he hired a cardioligist. Especially to make sure that everything was working right for his upcoming tour. I think the doctor(although they are trained not to) panicked. Isn't it enough pain for him to know that MJ died of cardiac arrest, and he couldn't help him? Yes, he probably should have called 911, and he should have had him on the floor, but I'm sure the doctor was just trying to see if he could get him back since that is his profession. It's alot more pressure for a doctor to handle someone of MJ's stature. Just like now, if you don't bring him back...the whole world will know and blame you!
    If you ask me, although he was making a comeback, MJ's torn heart just couldn't handle it all. Even if it was caused by painkillers, it was still the fact that he had taken them so he wouldn't feel the pain inside. I still think if we would have shown him the love we all feel for him now, he might still be with us today.
    RIP Michael...your spirit lives on!

    June 29, 2009 at 2:49 pm |
  80. Robert

    No matter how well-spoken this Houston attorney is ....we can all sense in our gut there is something "not right" with this story.

    With ALL the media attention, this would be a "huge coup" for L.A. Police to get to the bottom of this situation and figure out what really happened ....therefore, they'll figure it out ...may need a little time but they'll get to the bottom of what happened.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:48 pm |
  81. Absny

    Mrs. Clark – that's why we have cell phones....

    June 29, 2009 at 2:47 pm |
  82. Jackie

    So, if the In House Dr Claims he did not give MJ his injection, then why did he feel the need to check on him?

    Also, Why would a Dr Start CPR if he already had a Pulse ?
    If he had a Pulse, then the Dr, had time to get to a phone, all Dr's carry Cell Phones.

    You don't work on someone for 25 to 30 minutes and think, wow this isen't working, Maybe I should call 911

    Sounds to me like, the Dr, Gave him his injection, left the room, came back and found that MJ was shallow breathing, cleaned up his Involvment.


    June 29, 2009 at 2:47 pm |
  83. LEIGHM527

    No, he was no angel and a lot of kids are safer now. He died alone, broke, and that`s it.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:45 pm |
  84. Manish

    a 100K per month house rent, and there is no phone! Then doing a CPR with one Hand with one hand below the body?? Has this doctor tried doing this before . . . on top of that 30 minutes delay in calling in 911. The quick move by the doctor to hire and attorney and the attorney suggesting the doctor asked for second autopsy . . .Its all getting more and more curious!!

    If there is a 24×7 doctor need, specially a cardiologist, then why there was no basic equipments in place like a portable difib, oxygen etc. The whole thing is getting more and more dramatic and straight from a Hollywood movie plot (sic).

    A wonderful artist, who broke many barriers is no more, a life is lost, 3 children have lost their father . . .let's not rake up more dirt and let someone come up with TRUTH asap so that the man rests in peace and his family is alone to pick up the threads of life once again.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:41 pm |
  85. Frank

    As a physician, this is an unbelieveable explanation of the events. TO perform CPR on some one with a pulse is wrong. If there was a question of opiate use – he needed Narcan which reverses the respiratory depression of those drugs quickly. This doctor might have had such a drug with him especially if giving these drugs (althought denied in this report). If not, he belonged in the ER stat not 20-30 minutes later. No doctor waits to see if they can revive a person – they always call emergency at the same time they initiate CPR or vital support. You do not compress if you have a pulse. The hand behind the back technique is NOT a basic life support method for any one. I board is typically placed underneath patients in a bed or the patient is moved to the floor – a hard surface. This statement is full of negligence. Reports on this doctor and his debt suggest a trouble doctor was caring for a trouble patient – a formula for death if something like this occurred. Coronary artery disease would have been seen at the time of the autopsy. A pulmonayr embolism or any other acute medical event would have been seen at autopsy. What would not have been seen is drug overdose causing a respiratory arrest then leading to brain death and cardiac arrest – the likely cause of what happened. If he was still breathing and had a pulse when found – there was a chance to save him with the right treatments in a fully staffed ER. The delay in such care was just as much a cause for the death but the description given by this lawyer. This clearly does not make any medical sense.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:41 pm |
  86. MH of Pittsburgh

    There definitely are a lot of holes in the story. If he had a weak pulse, but wasn't breathing, it sounds to me that "rescue breathing" should have been initiated; however if there was no pulse CPR should have been administered. No phone in the house? Sounds a bit surprising to me that the doctor himself wouldn't be carrying a cell phone. And, since he is supposed to be a cardiologist and Mr. Jackson's personal physician – one would think that the physician would have a portable defibrillator to use. Hmmmm... And for some reason, I think that Miko Brando – who admitted to CNN that he was with Mr. Jackson late that night and into the early hours of the morning - may perhaps be holding something back. We, the World, have lost one of the most extraordinary entertainers. My heartfelt sympathies to the Jackson family.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:40 pm |
  87. Tammy

    Don't fret fellow fans...the TRUTH will come out in the end!!!

    RIP Michael.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:39 pm |
  88. Jack Tripper

    Let us not forget that it was not long ago and he was accused of molestation people.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:29 pm |
  89. Lisa

    A cardiologist lived there because they were making sure he was ok doing the strenous performances and singing like he had not done in the long time and vigorous workouts.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:26 pm |
  90. Chas

    So many people will miss Michael,....especially those who lived off his wealth over the years and allowed him to fall deeper and deeper into the reclusive person he evolved into.

    June 29, 2009 at 2:20 pm |
  91. JJ

    I hate to be the personal doctor who may or may not be responsible for MJ's death. Obviously Michael was a sick man, frail, underweight, prescription addicted. I heard MJ was feeling bad the night before. Why not take him to the hospital then??? I know we can all say something in hindsight, but it appears MJ should have been in a hospital and not at home.

    June 29, 2009 at 1:47 pm |
  92. Noreen Lorita Brill

    I'm still just as confused as before. I'm so sad about this! I feel like I lost a constant companion as for years now I have worked out every morning to his music. Ever since his passing working out has been difficult because I running but thinking that he's no longer going to sing like this. There will be no more albums. I know his soul is with Jehovah now but I still want him here.

    June 29, 2009 at 1:38 pm |
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