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June 30th, 2009
11:42 AM ET
Hispanic leaders want immigration reform now
President Obama got elected with a huge boost from Latino voters. Now some Hispanic leaders are demanding that the president make good on a campaign pledge to take on the politically charged issue of immigration reform.
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Imigration reform:
Needs and Goals.
1) Streamline the system.
2) Enlarge the participation
3) Decrease or eliminate the "undesirable", "illegal" or "terriorist" population
4) Encourage participation in the econimic and political base in a positive manor
Fear of registration and ability to remain stops the average "Joe" from participating and there are little or no consequences for not registering. Nor is there any benefit for registration. The system is "frozen" as a deer under headlights.
Registration is the beginning of the sorting and identification process of desirables vs undesiables.
Registration is the key to temporary or perminate ability to stay, to work or face deportation. Simple registration, name picture, finger print. Its the beginning of knowing "Whom we are dealing with"
Register–Identify
1) Simplify the registration by Identification and finger printing. Thats it! ...and your a "registered alien" its the number one problem and the number one step. No registration then no medical benefit, No registration then no work, No registration then "deport". if they register during deportation process then they remain as "registered alien"
The problem is identification of "desirable" and "undesirable" there is no way to tell the difference so why not register "all" then begin the research and work on defining. There is a hugh poplation of unregistered aliens either good persons or undesirables but most not participating in the monitary or econimic base of our econimy or are negitvely utilizing welfare or adversly effecting crime and our judicial system
Validate–Eliminate
2) use a 1 to 5 year process of "probation" for the "registered alien" a chance to be identified as "desirable" vs "undesirable" to participate in "required " or "model" citizenship duties such as learn the language and laws, filing taxes, drivers licenses, Insurances, voting, and a chance not to break laws and live on welfare. A chance to become a positive and not a negative.
3) citizenship or deportation as undesirable after "identification", "probation" after backround search, after demonstration of citizenship guidelines.
Its not about quotas, its about identifing undesirables, the terroist eliment , its about a standard of Citizenship, Its about avoiding those that are a drain to or econimic and legal systems.
We live in one of the greatest countries in the world, its a privledge to live here I am proud of it, if it wasn't good why would so many be coming here? Its not a right its a privledge which should be earned but not with a degree of olympic difficulty. Our country was founded on imigrants, as my family and most were.
Everyone or anyone can be down or their luck and need a leg up. We should put out our hand and as long as the imigrant puts out their hand Citizenship should be atainable.
The state of our country!!!
America, is currently in such a state of a downward spiral, that we clearly don't have the ability to stop! Our economy is crumbling, the foreclosure stimulus debacle is still just that, a debacle.
True Healthcare, is almost non existing (and that for the folks who can still afford to pay into the system). What kind of system do we have, whereby illegal immigrants and Gitmo detainses, get better healthcare service than paying Americans!!
Job lost is at an all time high and we still do not have anyone "mining the store" regarding the safety of the medications produced by the pharmaceutical companies or our food supply.
In addition to all these issues, we now have our President negotiating with Russia about "weapon disarmament", what's next!
As a student of Bible prophecy, I fear that President Obama's soft sell, regarding issues of the middle east ( especially with Iran and his two state policy of Israel), is setting the path for not only America's destruction but also of Israel. We have always supported as, our eternal allies!!!
As much as I hated former President Bush's policies both state side and globally, perhaps, he was right on regarding his approach with dealing with our enemies abroad!
How can we possibly trust the Russians, when everyone knows that Puttin is still the "Puppet Master", pulling the strings!!!
How can we converse with Iran, when their President states without conviction that his goal is the wipe both Israel and America off the Map!!
It's ironic, that we have elected officials and moreover, past and present Presidents, who claim to be Christians but don't understand Bible Prophecy!!
I truly fear for America, Great Brittian, Israel, Australia and Canada, simply because we are right on course for destruction, if we don't change course, as stated most importantly in the Bible books of Daniel and Revelations!
Perhaps, we should all just continue to sit by idol, until Russia, China or North Korea drops the bomb on our country and put us all out of our misery!!!!
It seem like everybody is mexicanising the immigration issue. It's not just mexican, illegal immigrants are here from all over the world.
Speaking of possible solutions, imagine how much would it cost us treasury to deport 12 million people. Now on the opposite side think of the income boost from theses illegals. Currently there is about $1000 application fee for a green card, and there used to be another $1000 fee for those who were illegal. That's $2000 per person, times 12M and you have 24 billion dollars flowing into us treasury. Do the simple math.
1. Change the law that children of illegal immigrants cannot become US citizen, unless they will get in line with the rest of immigrants.
2. Impose strict penalties for employers hiring illegals, up to confiscation of their business.
3. Fix the borders!!!!!!
4. Fix and obey the laws!!!!
They do not want "reform;" they DO want anmesty. NO, NO, NO!!!
Immigration should be reformed to insure people don't just stay without applying for citizenship.
Too many illegals are staying and sucking the welfare system dry and causing financial hardship for states like CA. This is real, not bigotry
Round em up, send them back! Get that WALL built..
Immigration reform.
First of all, I am hispanic, and believe that illegal immigration is a huge problem in this country; especially the South.
Also, I absolutely believe in merit, and have not and will not use my
ethnicity for personal gain.
On to the problem.
Put yourselves into the other man's boots.
Option 1
Stay in your country with little hope of providing for your family and even less for a better life.
Option 2
Cross the border illegally to "el Norte".
Take a chance by crossing on your own, or paying a "coyote" to smuggle you and your family across. Either way its a huge risk if you get caught.
Consquences
Once you get across, migrate to a city or town where you might know someone who came across before you; a cousin, uncle, brother- anyone that can help you find a job.
Mostly you will be performing manual labor, yard work, construction, food service and the like. If you are lucky, you might be able to send for you family to come across too. As long as there is work, it should be o.k. for you and your family. In time you might be able to buy a used car, even a home and send the children to American schools.
Downsides include the fear of deportation, exploitation by employers, and little access to services except for those jurisdictions that have policies in place where people in need are not turned away. Given the fact that opportunities in Mexico and other countries are few, and that Americans will seek to pay the lowest wage possible, there will be a continuing demand for unskilled labor.
With the economic downturn we are currently experiencing; many of the unskilled are without work and and are caught between a rock and a hard place.
Solutions:
One:
Enforce the laws currently on the books.
If I immigated to another county illegally I should be expected to be deported by immigration officials if I am found out.
I have little sympathy for those that think they can exist here in perpetuity without making an attempt to become a US citizen.
Two:
Work with Mexican officials on improving the process for legal immigration. This may mean setting up "immigration centers" on the Mexican side of the border to make sure that the people coming across are documented and understand the terms and conditions of their immigration status.
Three:
Paying a fine for being in country is ridiculous. Only a hack politician could think of something that dumb. Instead, tell the immigrants to follow the law as it now stands, apply for a work visa, and with time, apply to citizenship the same as anyone else.
To do otherwise is to risk deportation.
Curiously, the children of these immigrants, despite their parents, will become americanized, learn english, and be able to contribute to this country. We (US and Mexico) need to make the system work without gutting the laws already in place.