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August 7th, 2009
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Editor's Note: The continued debate surrounding health care town hall meetings and protests generated the most feedback on Friday’s American Morning. Evenly split between the two camps, those in favor of the protests did not believe they were part of an “organized” or “grassroots” effort on behalf of the Republicans. Those opposed to the disruptions adamantly argued that such activities were indeed planned by Republicans opposed to President Obama’s proposed health care plan.
For Protests
- Betty: I like my health care plan. Do not want the President’s plan of limiting senior care. Town hall meetings "organized & paid for". Show the proof.
- Judy: DNC call American Citizens an angry mobs at town hall meetings, they probably watched the game playing during the Energy and Commerce committee meeting last week. They want answers from their representatives, they want representation ( for which they were voted in to do) no voting on party lines and favoring only what their party wants.
- Sharon: I am a democrat. Have been all of my life. I am also against the President's plan for healthcare reform. In fact, I have made a homemade sign and participated in dialogue about it. I have written my congressmen. And yet I am one of many people that is being dismissed as a right-wing nut job, an unruly mob, part of an organized protest group set up by the RNC. Sorry but that just doesn't apply to me. Nor does it apply to most of the protestors that I have met. We are a mix of liberals, conservatives, independents and many others. We are not organized by the RNC. We have a right to free speech in this country and we are exercising it. It's funny how a group of liberals and left-wingers can come out in organized protest (and with pre-printed signs) and they are just "exercising their constitutional rights." But the everyday, average citizen comes out to have their say and we are dismissed as a "vast, right-wing conspiracy" or an "unruly mob." Really? Give me a break.
Against Protests
- Mary: There is no doubt that these "grassroots" protest groups are being organized and "trained". I was called yesterday by a friend who is part of the Republican group in my county asking for people to come to a meeting to "learn how to disrupt listening sessions" in Wisconsin. Those were her exact words. Guess she forgot I voted for Obama! In addition I think that "polling" CNN did yesterday was pretty funny. My boss ran around the office all afternoon getting on people's computers -without asking them- to make sure he could flood the CNN voting site with as many F votes for the Democrats and A votes for the Republicans as possible. You people in the media must be totally clueless. You aren't understanding what is happening out here in the real world and are giving all these dishonest people a great forum for their dirty tricks and falsehoods. When is the media going to grow up?
- Hazel: Even if the Republican party is not "orchestrating" the protests at the town hall meeting on health care reform, they are still responsible for inciting them with the use of their typical scare tactics of false propaganda.
- Patty: The Republicans use dirty tactics to create chaos and make people think there is something awful about to happen. They don't have anything constructive to add to a conversation so they don't allow any conversation at all and then they go on TV and deny everything. They are a disgrace to the American system and a negative force toward all progress that don't fit their agenda of GOD< GUNS. If they read their bible they would know that God is Love and love is not exclusive to the Republican point of view. I wish they would sit down and shut up. Listen for a change. They might learn something.
- Gyl: I am really worried about all the healthcare and our country. The only way we will solve this problems is through thoughtful discussion of ideas and respect for each other...not shouting and rudeness and mob mentality. Ask people to find a place within to work with our representatives to accomplish healthcare that will serve us all and stop all the rudeness and disrespect please.
Which side do you take in this argument? Tell us your thoughts.
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Palin’s remarks were not made out of love of country, but out of love of Sarah Palin. Her comments were meant to inflame and therefore, keep her alive in the public arena, because she knows the more outlandish the comment the more air time she’ll get. It's a shame that news organizations like CNN give her legitimacy by airing her comments. They should leave her to the Fox NEWS (and I use that term loosely) Network.
One question. . .
Prior to making such an outlandish and truly irresponsible statement, did Sarah Palin read any of the proposed legislation?
Oops, my mistake. Let me rephrase that. . . prior to making such an outlandish and truly irresponsible statement, did Sarah Palin have someone read (and explain) any of the proposed legislation to her?
She reminds me of a certain senator from Wisconsin who was in the news 50+ years ago. Boy, we never learn, do we?
Bivens,
You are exactly what is wrong with this debate, what is happening to this country and why it is going down the tubes – all the comments about race or political parties is a smoke screen and has nothing to do with the topic. Like Stuart in PA, I am an Independent who voted for Obama in the primary, and now see the error of my ways. Playing the race card and attempting to lay on guilt trips doesn't work with intelligent people any more as there is adequate opportunity for people to suceed in this country and for anyone of any race, creed, or national orgin to return to where their ancestors came from if they think there's a better life for them elsewhere. Political parties don't have anything to do with the debate either as there are many Demos that oppose this proposed healthcare plan, as well a Repubs, and don't forget the Independents like Stuart and I.
The protests on the Healthcare plan are totally justified since there is no sense in totally disrupting/destroying the current healthcare in the hope that a progressive healthcare plan might work. It would make a lot more sense to "fix" the healthcare programs the government runs currently, rather than mortgaging the future of the country on a whim. Government hasn't proven that it can sucessfully manage anything yet.
"I am an Indep who did vote for Obama in the general election, but now I see the error of my ways… Oops"
Yeah you definitely come off as an independent thinker, yeah right. Repubs are no longer in power, so either work constructively with us or get out of the way. You can't reach across to an aisle that only wants to impede progress due to their disdain over a brown skinned president.
Health Care- I find it interesting that the Democrats are now blaming the Republicans, and HC Execs for stirring up the Town Halls gatherings. Unless the Repubs and PAYING people to instigate I would say it's free speech. Just because Nancy P doesn't like it, it's still free speech.
I find it appalling for the Pres Office to make comments directed against any one individual, didn't they learn 2 weeks ago with their "Stupid cops" comment? Plus I thought Pres Obama always said one if his greatest skills is his ability to "reach across the aisle..." . Is this how he does it?
PS – I am an Indep who did vote for Obama in the general election, but now I see the error of my ways... Oops
If those of you that are attacking the big industries than why are the lawyers escaping any Tort Reform. If all are suppose to give in this debate, than why can't the issues of controlling the law suites be part of this debate? Please tell me why this cannot be part of the debate in congress since this also part of the problem.
I work with physicians and their malpractice insurance is out of control. When congress puts anything in place and the many changes they are forced to cover the cost. Every time they want different information the physician is forced to upgrade their billing system, which cost go up every year. Such as electronic medical records can cost a physician $40,000 to put into place and about $5,000 a year for a single physician. If the government wants to put this issue in place they should offer a free medical record system. The push to electronic claims now cost a large physician practice about $1,000 a month, checking eligibility on patience also ads to the cost. The cost of healthcare can be contributed to the white house
What is wrong with everyone?? The extremist liars are being believed!! The media is not exposing the truth. I am on medicare as a senior citizen and I am very well cared for by this 'government program'.
I like to step outside of a situation that has to do with myself. Can anyone imagine what other countries with higher life expantancies than the USA are thinking?
Only in my beloved America, will you see people protest 'getting' better health care. (I think the media should quit covering clowns, like Mr. Reagan said, like Sarah Palin.)
I disagree with the anger and violance associated with these meetings. It reminds me of the hate associated with the 60's and 70's in our country. If people would simply get factual none bias information so people can make intellegent decisions, I believe it would be much more helpful. It would be great if some news organization "CNN" could do an expose' on the government run healthcare systems in the world such as Australia, Canada, France, and Switzerland so Americans can become more educated.
I am so sick and tired of hearing "don't let gov't get between you and your doctor." It's very obviously a planted thought, as are most of these protests, because if people stopped for one moment to think, they'd realize there is already someone between them and their doctor: their health insurance company, of course. They decide if you can get that MRI you need; they decide if your prescription will be paid for; they decide if they're going to cover you, or if your "Pre-existing Condition" is too much of a risk for them.
Given the choice b/w the Health Insurance Industry, who is out for profit above all else, and the government, I think it's worth the risk to place our bets on the government. Because we MUST DO SOMETHING.
Wake up, government has been controlling healthcare for a long time. Medicare set the standards, how much is paid, what procedure will be paid for, how long you can stay in the hospital; basically everything about our healthcare.. With these standards, the private insurance follows Medicare's lead and sets up their payment plan the same way. Medicare is government and big brother is in charge.
What is the solution then, continue to let uninsured go without healtcare, till they are so sick they have to come in the hospital. These people then have enormous medical bills that they can't pay, leaving doctors and hospitals to absorb the cost.
There is an old spirit that was present during the capture and processing of my slave ancestors. I see that same spirit not only at these town hall meetings but in society in general. It's a negative aura that is hanging over society such as it did during the OJ trial.
I think this is something America will have to deal with. These people are suffering from shell shock because things are not the way they used to be. It's like a junkie who needs a fix, THESE PEOPLE NEED TO HATE SOMETHING OR SOMEONE BLACK.
I have a particular white friend who has embraced this mentality and he and I do not hang out anymore and I see that he and his kids are infected with this mentality. Regardless, I was still willing to be the friend of the family regardless, only I was the one ousted from the friendship with the father of that Klan.
If this boils over I hope the authorities can handle it. In the meantime I refuse to take this lynch mob lightly. I'm on full alert and all hands are on deck. Same says my cronies.
I, for one, have crappy insurance through my work and would like to hear the whole proposal before I decide to support it or not. I'm also looking into private insurance. We'll see.
Was just listening to Ron Reagan and Larry Elder on CNN. I think Ron's comments were exactly what is happening. WRONG INFORMATION FUELING THE FIRES. Where and what will this lead us to?
It also by blogs and comments left that many "pools" are wrong or way off. Polls haven't been trusted since 2000.
These Town halls are dangerous and incendiary. The comments by Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are incendiary... my biggest question is since we've seen fights break out at these town halls, how long before one of these "Grassroot Americans" shoots or attempts to kill one of the Politicians holding the town halls.
Also, I'm almost positive Betty the Republican is out of touch with reality! It's CLEAR that ALMOST all Republican affiliated websites are advertising it as an event not as news. They support the voicing and drowning out of a debate, killing the Democratic process. There are two sides to EVERY story and disruption is not constructive!
Betty, if you want proof that the town hall meeting disruptions are planned go to http://www.recessrally.com and check out the sponsors – all insurance, HMO's, big pharma, etc. It's all on THEIR web site, not second hand info.
All the screaming is mob rule, not honest debate and Sarah Palin's death panel claim is an outright lie.
Wow! It seems that the Left Wing Nuts can't handle what they have been doling out for many years now. As I read through the post, I see comments like “Neo Nazi” and “Goon Squads” etc in describing opposition to the Government Takeover of the healthcare system. The tactics being used by the people in opposition to the healthcare disaster are using the same tactics the left wing has been using since the 60s. Only when they do it the left wing media calls them noble and courageous.
In six months this administration has taken over the entire financial, banking and automotive segments of our economy. Now they have set their sites on healthcare. Our government can not effectively deliver mail, run transportation, or manage its own budgets. Aside from collecting taxes they do little very well.
As for the name calling idiots perhaps they should shut up and open a history book seeking information on all the successful government run socialist, communist and fascist societies of history. Fortunately for most of theses morons it’s a short read.
I am a natural born US Citizen who spent a lot of time going to college to obtain a carreer and be independent & self supporting. I also work in the health care field. My observations are that in America we already have a health care system (if you do not have insurance) that will take care of emergencies and severe illnesses, I think it is called Medical. What I have seen in this current debate are people with extremely unrealistic expectations demanding treatment and cure for conditions that are truely brought on by life style choices and they are not willing to change their habits, ie: diet, exercise, smoking, drinking, etc. I am sorry that your Grandmother has cancer, heart disease and Alzeimers but she is 90 years old and I think effort should be made to keep her comfortable instead of putting her through painful treatments. Health care education is needed as I see a lot of patients who are demanding MD appointments for conditions that could easily be treated by advice & over the counter medications, ie: coughs, diarrhea, nausea, sprains, seasonal allergies, insomnia, poor appetite, "not feeling good". There are some conditions that are not capable of being cured only managed so the patient will be comfortable but you will never be able continue or resume the life style that you had 30 years ago, ie. emphysema. I think health care that is reasonable and required should be provided for Americans, but they should not think they deserve or receive "designer label" treatments unless they are able to pay for it. I don't work hard so that my taxes can subsidize someone's careless and/or wreckless behaviors. Take care and stay healthy!
Dan is so right. Insurance companies, HMO's, big hospital corporations, and big pharma are raking in billions of dollars while denying us care – those of us who still have insurance. What I find is that those screaming the loudest are covered by some type of government health care – medicare, state or federal employee benefits or military benefits. They have no idea what's going on. We need a public options to counter the monopoly of big insruance.
I even feel for the providers. My husband and $157 worth of lab tests and the insurance paid the lab about $1.50. Yes, I have the proof; I even called the insurer to see if this was correct – after all the materials for blood tests cost more than $1.50.
The Bush Administration did nothing the past 8 years in order to keep healthcare affordable. The 7 million unemployed from his Presidency cannot afford Cobra at $500 – 1200 a month either. I am amazed that the "Party of No" continues to inflict fear into the people about another choice for healthcare and people are showing up at the Town Hall Meetings angry and violent along with racist comments. Are they listening to Rush Limbaugh? They choose to be ignorant instead of learning more about the Presidents plan. Many countries love their government healthcare. The President has repeatly told Americans that it will not interfere with their current medical plans or their Medicaid. How many more times does Obama have to get on TV and say this? The "Party of No" is writing and staging the script to confuse people. Palin's comments on healthcare was a good Republican example.
Personally, i don't know who is "right" on the health care issue. But I think that ANY individual that exists today that has an insurance company standing in the way of health care is an atrocity.
If anyone against a reform AGAINST the health care/ insurance industry having a public option should at least give their name and social security number. By claiming to be against "socialized health care" is basically saying that you don't want or need Medicaid or Medicare or The Veterans Administration. All of which are funded by the Government and RAN by Government. So, please surrender that information and save the country money as you are intending to do. Thank you
Now on this racist stuff. If you want this country to quit playing the racist card then quit asking us if we are black, white, hispanic, or other on applications. It doesn't matter right???We should not have to be over looked because of that question thats on top of every application. Pick the best person for the job not for their race. I am sick and tired of that weapon being used all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats my opinion and like they say everyone has one.LOL
Republicans: No new ideas, No news plans, No new solutions, so I guess it wouldn't be considered new, that they want Americans to have No healthcare, No Cash for Clunkers, No Energy Policy, No tax breaks for the middle class, No Latinos on the Supreme Court and No help for the economy. (Just let the Markets fix it). The only thing they say Yes to is, Big tax cuts for the wealthy, who don't need it, and disruptive Town Hall meetings. And they call that FREEDOM. Wow, Go figure.
The thought that you can keep your physician depends on if the Physicians accept this plan. Right now they have a choice to take Medicare Medicaid or not. The people that should be involved in this plan are the physicians. It is not the hospital that treats the patients or the insurance companies It is the physician. No one ever post or reports their views on this subject. They have no idea what congress is wanting them to do or not to do.
How come americans can freely cut down Bush over the last eight years and his policy but say one thing against the current admistration and it is organized and we are bashed for a difference of opinion. It is not Obama personally that I am against. I am against the congress and Senators for not knowing what they are signing and rushing though a bill that has a long term affect.
I am republican but have voted on both party lines depending on person who is running. I vote for the individual not the party. BUt I am upset that there is no middle ground on this issue. And that I am afraid to voice my opinion if I oppose because I am not allowed to disagree with this issue or any issue. I am my own opinion. No one hires me or tells me how to think.
It looks like this country is in transition. Most of us used to have health care as part of our wage package. It more or less worked – we still had a lot of people without health care. Now with companies cutting back and people working for less wages, health care has become a major issue. My wife and I just cannot afford the insurance companies charges for health care. A national health care system need not provide less or more expensive health care. Look for the largest or newest building in any large city – It's an insurance building. They our holding our lives and the lives of our children hostage for obscene profit margins. If we regulate insurance companies, that would decrease the cost of health care. If we provide an alternative to private insurance, that would decrease health care costs. There are may ways to resolve the problem. It has been done in every industrialized country around the world. We are not doing anything new – it works around the world. We all have our problems. Looks like our biggest problem in the United States is FEAR in capital letters. Fear because we do not look beyond our borders to see how other cultures handle problems. I suggest we all search the internet to find the truth about health care in other countries. We can no longer allow large corporations to hold our health hostage for profit margin. I have had two heart attacks and presently have lost most of my sight in my right eye. It is still much more cost effective for me to pay the doctor bills than to attempt to carry health insurance – think about it. Where is all the money going? The people in our country are being stripped of all their wealth by large corporations. They do not compete (free market), they set prices. Just look at anything from the cost of a gallon of gasoline to a loaf of bread to your cell phone charges to your television service. It doesn't matter much what company you purchase a service from, the cost is the same. We have laws that do not allow monopolies – we do not enforce them. We need to regain control of our country. I am not asking for anything for free. I'm just tired of being ripped off. Yes, I think a national health care system will work in the United States – it works in every country I have checked on (approximately 37 or 38 other industrialized nations) All of which do a better job than we do not only with health care but quality of life, family life, qualitty of work life. Hard to understand how we can be so afraid of something just because we do not understand. Please try to learn about how other cultures provide a good standard of life and a longer life for their citizens.
Health Care Reform is needed! If you look on line at a list of private insurers they charge for a family over $600 per month (premium) only to charge a deductible of $2,000+. Who has money like that! The lobbyist argument is we want things to remain this way! The private sector argument is we want things to remain this way! President Obama is saying IT CAN’T CONTINUE THIS WAY! He has also cleary stated numerous times IF YOU LIKE YOUR INSURANCE KEEP IT, this new legislation will only keep changes from occuring that would change what you like and make your premiums sky rocket. So what is the problem? Those who are doing wrong and believe that its right don't want the change. Sometimes people get comfortable doing wrong.
The average American seems to be unaware of how serious our current healthcare problems are. People do not seem to understand that many American manufacturing jobs and full time positions in service industries (restuarants, department stores) were lost due to the high cost of providing healthcare benefits. They do not seem to understand that the average american employer can no longer afford to pay for health care benefits. Right now 80% of americans still seem to have health care but I predict that by the year 2019 if some kind of health care reform isn't put into place that so few americans will have health care that you will see mass riots begging for it on such a scale has as never been witnessed before in this country. What's really crazy is that although most Americans have had to sign up their children for government run healthcare -( it's called CHIP in my state) because their employers no longer pay for family health care but they can't seem to understand that within the next ten years their job isn't going to pay for the costs of the employee health care either. All I can say is please my fellow Americans – wake up and start taking the need for healthcare reform serious before we reach the crisis point.
It looks like this country is in transition. Most of us used to have healthcar as part of our wage package. It more or less worked – we still had a lot of people without health care. Now with companies cutting back and people working for less wages, health care has become a major issue. My wife and I just cannot afford the insurance companies charges for health care. A national health care system need not provide less or more expensive health care. Look for the largest or newest building in any large city – It's an insurance building. They our holding our lives and the lives of our children hostage for obscene profit margins. If we regulate insurance companies, that would decrease the cost of health care. If we provide an alternative to private insurance, that would decrease health care costs. There are may ways to resolve the problem. It has been done in every industrialized country around the world. We are not doing anything new – it works around the world. We all have our problems. Looks like our biggest problem in the United States is FEAR in capital letters. Fear because we do not look beyond our borders to see how other cultures handle problems. I suggest we all search the internet to find the truth about health care in other countries. We can no longer allow large corporations to hold our health hostage for profit margin. I have had two heart attacks and presently have lost most of my sight in my right eye. It is still much more cost effective for me to pay the doctor bills than to attempt to carry health insurance – think about it. Where is all the money going? The people in our country are being stripped of all their wealth by large corporations. They do not compete (free market), they set prices. Just look at anything from the cost of a gallon of gasoline to a loaf of bread to your cell phone charges to your television service. It doesn't matter much what company you purchase a service from, the cost is the same. We have laws that do not allow monopolies – we do not enforce them. We need to regain control of our country. I am not asking for anything for free. I'm just tired of being ripped off. Yes, I think a national health care system will work in the United States – it works in every country I have checked on (approximately 37 or 38 other industrialized nations) All of which do a better job than we do not only with health care but quality of life, family life, qualitty of work life. Hard to understand how we can be so afraid of something just because we do not understand. Please try to learn about how other cultures provide a good standard of life and a longer life for their citizens.
Cancel the politicians health insurance...that's the first step in obtaining health insurance reform.
For the seniors opposed to socialized medicine...I suggest they cancel their Medicare and buy their own policy from BCBS...if they can.
Why can not Democrats disagree with other Democrats,in loud,rowdy ways with out the media claiming its Republicans causing the ruckus?.Why would the Democrats in congress want everyone else to have this great health care plan,while exempting themselves and their families?...
Problem is there is no final plan,to discuss,all the Politicians want to do is talk dribble about a pie in the sky,and the American people want facts,we are tired of lies and promises..And we are mad that the politicians are treating us like sheeple,and we ahould just follow along,like Obama is Our Messiah.
I really do not know how American businesses can sustain the costs of insuring their employees and employees families, especially when companies are struggling to survive, let alone make a profit. It should not be surprising to all Americans that so many jobs have been outsourced to other countries to contain healthcare costs. Americans need to stop being so short sighted about this issue while manufacturing jobs are drying up and third world countries are benefiting to American's detriment.
A good case in point is my husband's publishing business. He provides health care insurance to approximately 250 employees and their families. His premiums have risen from $200,000.00 four years ago to $800,000.00 currently. All the while, his employees are contributing more and getting less in terms of benefits.
Our health care system is broken and needs to be reformed. Without a public option, the health insurance industry, drug companies, and providers will continue to make huge profits at the expense of health care consumers who are paying for their lobbyists, paying for their television drug commercials and other forms of advertising, paying for
unnessessary healthcare facilities and services while their CEO's are getting very rich.
That statement by Palin was just another sign this woman needs to use her insurance to get mental health. She is inciting paranoia in the public over this health care issue making us believe somehow we are going to decide who lives and dies. A country who is so concerned for human rights is now going to decide if someone is worth saving. Rediculous. These kinds of rhetoric are hurting us. We need to talk like sane adults. Sarah go have an adult conversation with President Obama please. Stop trying to put a wedge between the Gop and the Dems. We need to oraganize and cooperate to help this country out of this aweful situation. I am an outreach nurse and work in several urban communities believe me reform is needed. Healthcare is needed. No one I see has healthcare or any hope of it.
Health Care Reform is needed! If you look on line at a list of private insurers they charge for a family over $600 per month only to charge of deductible of $2,000. Who has money like that! The lobbyist argument is we want things to remain this way! The private sector argument is we want things to remain this way! President Obama is saying IT CAN'T CONTINUE THIS WAY! He has also cleary stated numerous times that
I'm one of the working uninsured. Did you know Duct Tape can fix a lot more than advertised? I fell last year and cut my face. Unable to afford a $2,000 emergency room visit for stitches, I duct taped the cut back together! It healed nicely.
Perhaps the media behaves in the same way so they don't realize that the rest of us see it as RUDE, CRUDE, OBNOXIOUS behavior. Maybe no one ever taught these rabble how to behave. Perhaps they didn't have parents or teachers to correct their bad behavior. Could be. You could make a fortune if you take closeups and sell them to the front page of their local papers. Their children and grandchildren should see their behavior in public.
Clearly the media doesn't recognize the Swift Boat flavor to these mob scenes, or the LIES.
Tell me, are any of your reporters going to UK, Spain, Sweden, France to cover mass revolts against their health care systems? Why NOT? It does look like they live longer, and have better care than we have. In France they have 'house calls.' It seems all those people MUST BE SMARTER THAN WE ARE. After all, they aren't super powers (like us) and they aren't the wealthiest country (we are) so the BIG difference is they're SMARTER!
This is a no brainer. Our health care is broken. I am happy President Obama is taking on the health insurance companys. If these old goats are mad about Goverment health care kill medicare. see how fast they change there tone. Asking someone how they like there health care when they receive it from there employer of course they are happy. Ask the small busness owner that cant afford to insure themselves no less there employees. Ask the Ceo of a large companys. The insurance companys have joined the ranks of the oil companys. This country is Greed drivin. The system is broken!
I have reasonably good health insurance. True our family of 5 has gone from a zero deductible to a high deductible ($7,200.00 total per year), but compared to many, it is still good coverage. The fact is that all along, many of my family's health care decisions have been decided by bureaucrats and NOT our doctors or us.... so when I hear these misleading adds warning us that Obama's plan will result in bureacrats making medical decisions, I am disgusted. We have been experiencing that for years! Why are Republicans are fighting so hard to preserve this?
The healthcare debate is extremely confusing, perhaps deliberately so. I have read provisions of the plan and I find specific wording that describe parts of the plan that alarm me, those parts such as "End of Life Counseling" that supporters claim aren't in the plan. I do not believe the widespread protests against the plan are orchestrated by the GOP or anyone else. I am retired military and communicate with people all over the country; there is genuine concern that Obama and Pelosi and other progressives are about to wreck the nations health care system. Many of the people that I communicate with point to the inefficiency of other government programs such as the VA hospitals, Medicare, Medicaid, and USPHS and see that scenario as the future of medicine in the USA. Why not place the small portion of uninsured on existing government programs rather than destroying the current system, further running up the deficient, and outraging US citizens?
Why don't they get a basic medical plan, let insurance companies provide suplemental policies for those who want additional care.
Currently, there is already government oversight in the insurance industry.
Secondly, insurance companies "decide" on your health care if you are insured. Insurance companies will not pay for services they decide are unnecesary or are "not usual and customary."
Third, standardize enrollment forms, claim forms and explaination of benefit forms, that will save money.
These protests are showing our children, that adults are not able to settle disputes in honest diplomatic manner. We adults believe shouting, pushing, lying and stretching the truth is okay. Sad....
New Flash to all Seniors. If it was not for the Government you would not have health care. Medicare is government run health care system. So when you say you don't want the government running your health care, are you saying you want to give up your medicare card? Now, are you still against government run health care? Do you want to deny me the same coverage that you are enjoying? Oh yeah, the Veterans health care system is a government run program too. Should we tell our veterans that you want to cancel their health care? Stop beleiving the lies that you see on commercials paid for by insurance companies and rich right wing citizens who want to destroy health reform. Start reading the newspaper articles and start researching the wild claims, so you can see for yourself that they are all lies. We need health reform and we need it now. My Mother needs it now. My Sister needs it now. Many of my friends need it now. They are Americans and they need your help.
Our fight is with the Dems. Ghandi said "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they attack you, then you win. The Dems are in unfamiliar territory dealing with the people that actually make America work. They are primarily concerned with death to the unborn and now death to the infirm. i don't want my questions and concerns addressed. THE DEMS MUST BE ORDERED TO SIT DOWN AND SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Dems have gone to telephone town hall meetings for safety reasons and the president has left the country for Mexico. They are hiding from a mess of their own making. They are so arrogant they make me sick.
There is so much spin. I obtained a copy of the house bill and it doesn't say much of what the people who are fighting health care reform say it does. I have a private plan, with a high dedutible ($7,000) and NO Choice! The big carriers say I am uninsurable, yet when I worked for a large company the same carriers insured me and can see my medical records showing no major or chronic claims.
I invite everyone with an employer sponsored group health plan to complete a private application for insurance. The 7-10 applications are a pain and are all geared to find reasons not to insure you.
Why can't insurance companies form groups like they do with employers? They don't want to. It's all about money and control. We need reform now, with a public option! And if you haven't read the bill you shouldn't talk about it!
The Rallies are not just Republicans.
It is Democrats and Independents as well, coming together for a change.
We need Health Care changes but not a socialized system.
Insure the uninsured, make health care portable but NO Government take over.The current bills are being leaked in bits and pieces and they don't like what they hear.The Tampa Rally was loud because they locked out 800 to a 1000 people.Get the facts.
I'm truly puzzled why people don't want health care reform. My employer can no longer afford to give us the health plan they have given us in the past. The co-pay for my premium tripled this year and the deductible increased from $250 per person and $500 for the family to $2,500. While I technically have health insurance, I feel uninsured.
I support a public option and would also support expansion of the federally funded health clinics available in some counties.
PS – Don't seniors realize this have socialized medicine? Its called Medicare.
They should stop all the town meetings – anyone with legitimate ideas who wish to debate healthcare could ask questions on the phone or a computer. Also I think that President Obama should give the TV networks, congress, and the citizens of this country a report card – I think that most of us have failed him. We finally get a very intelligent person to run this country who can actually handle more than one thing at a time and all people can do is criticize the fact. When anyone figures out their budget they include health care – how could you not? We need more young open minded people in congress to move this country forward until then it will be same old ideas that have held us back from progress all these years.
Everyone talks about the government deciding what treatment we get. They forget that the HEALTHCARE company already decides whether they will pay for treatments and either leave us dead or broke!!!
We need to do something about health care and I do not know why the wing nuts are so against it and spread such discord and blantant lies among the American public.
News stories have been done for years about people traveling over-seas to get health care at cheaper costs and this is not cosmetic, thses are people getting major surgies done. Check 60 minutes & Dateline archives for these stories of the uninsured.
One thing I wish would be addressed by both sides is the cost of insurance. With BC/BS a family plan costs $900 a month! Sure HMO's are cheap but they dictate which Dr's you can see and why.
Welfare is run by the Government and people get health care through that....why isn't the Right Wing Nuts trying to abolish that program? It's so unAmerican to get something for nothing.
My family is lucky to have BC/BS has one of my husbands benefits at work. We have family in Canada who love their health care and have gotten great care from nursing home of a cousin with Alzheimers to
hospice care for cancer(who survived by the way).
Do your research people and stop letting the Right's talking heads tell you how to think.
It seems to me that all the protesters to PRESIDENT OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE PLAN are probably the same people that voted against him in the election....LOOK at them they all look as if their 40 years old or older! It looks like the rally's Sarah and John had during the primary! Its a shame that people think the way they do because Barack is THEIR PRESIDENT! All I know is I need HEALTH CARE no matter if it comes from democrats or republicans!
1.August 8th on national news. "Plans are to include abortions in the
health care bill". (HCB)
2.Protestors gone too far? Congress has gone too far. It does not like
an informed constituency.
3.SEIU beat up a St. Louis resident, and the Millers complain about
threats? We lose more teachers and administrators than congress-
men. We abort tens of thousands of babies and we are supposed
to concern ourselves about a deaf mute congressman or is it that
through his arrogance he does not listen?
4. Congress buys new jets that are not needed?
5. Independents like myself that cannot be bought by lobbyists as are
the congress are furious over 'brown' shirt accusations. Ironic I say.
That Hitler silenced his opponents with piano wire and democrats
are using name calling.
6. As an independent working for no one I sent e-Mails to Murray,
Baird and Cantwell suggesting they stay in DC because it was easy
to see Washingtonians are fed up. Brown shirts we ain't.
7. Miller says he will support the bill, but he has not read it?? No
wonder our schools are screwed up. We're raising sheep.
This is long, but you asked. Have a good week.
I didn't vote for him and now I know why.Talk about craming it down the american peoples throat.how dare he and his groupe(all afraid of
loosing their jobs) Tell me do they including the president have to use this national health care as their insurance also? I think not.I like my insurance plan.I don't want this socialistic care.I feel railroaded into something nobody is listening to...esp those in the democratic party.I urge the american people to keep expressing their dislike of this program.my own mother will be dead within a few months if this plan goes through because this plan will never allow the care she is getting now.I especially abhore the attempts of this mob majority to squelch any town hall gatherings. How dare they squelch freedom of speech.What's next....the only good thing coming out of this? There killing chances of relection.My father fought for freedom of speech and the freedoms we have.This democratic mob is slowing threatening that.
It's hard to believe that any democrat or moderate would be so angrily oppossing health care at these town hall meetings. Most of the reasons they site for being against the plan are based on lies that the right wing has funded and put forth. If any sane person were to actually study the plan and understand what is being proposed they of course would be in favor of it. If you have health care now, you will keep your plan, but your premium will reduce in price. You will save money. If you do not have health care you will be able to pick from one of the private plans or a government plan. The choice will be yours. Why is anyone against this plan? There are millions of your brothers and sisters who do not have health care. CNN needs to do a better job of exposing the lies that are being told. You are news agency. These gross lies are big news if people are believing them. Expose them for what they are and help get health care passed. Fox news already does a great job of skewing reality, we certainly do not need another news organization doing that.
When the left protests (animal rights,enviromentalists or any other cause) the media or democrat leadership never berates them.They are drowning out opposition by media attacks-comments.
I fully support the idea of health care reform. I do believe most of these protests are organized by both conservatives, and those congressmen and government officials in the pockets of pharmaceutical companies. You have to understand that the last thing pharmaceutical and insurance companies want is a government option. They will be forced to either adjust their overly inflated costs, or face the idea of fewer and fewer customers. For those screaming "OH MY GOD SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE!", please realize that many services that you take for granted are socialized. Medicare, financial aid, and your everyday post office are all socialized. When was the last time your requested a service from the post office that you were utterly unsatisfied with? How many of the hundreds or thousands of documents you've mailed have never made it to their destinations? The fact is we must either reform health care (including Medicare) or break the backs of the current and future youth that must burden these sky-rocketing costs.
Paul Krugman claims protests in 2005 weren’t as raucous as health care protests.
TOTALLY A DIFFERENT ISSUE. CROWDS WERE SMALLER BECAUSE FEWER PEOPLE WERE AFFECTED.
HEALTH CARE AFFECTS 100% OF THE POPULATION.
P.S.
Please don't send my e-mail address to the Wthite House as a FISHY e-mail.I don't want them coming to my house.
What part of keep your own doctor, keep you own health care plan is so misunderstood?
Against health care. I come from a Dem family when I vote voted Dem I'm totally against the health care reform I think it will move more jobs out of this country. I am also against most of Obamas actions since taking office. I think the politicians just want to believe the American people are supporting their ideals and are in denial or just don't wanna listen to us.
Kingsport TN
Given the current "lack of confidence" the American people have with our congress it would seem that the only way some people feel they can get their feelings and thoughts across is to confront their member of congress..... otherwise it seems they aren't LISTENING.
If they want healthcare so bad for the American people WHY aren't they participating in that same plan??? Is it not going to be good enough for them??? Well over 75% of the American population are happy/satisfied with their "current" healthcare choices. WHY should the entire system change for the less than 25% that are not satisfied? Does the congress not hear, are they NOT LISTENING to the 75-80% majority??
I think the American people would look at it differently if ALL of congress would be included in "OUR" healthcare plan, after all aren't they Americans too??? I certainly would look at this issue differently if congress was included; because you know they will not settle for anything but the best, why should we?
I am tired of the media and the President always saying these are organized protests from the Republicans! I am a life long Democrat and myself as well as everyone I know are against this government health care plan! Represntatives should listen to the people who they represent!
I am an American, married to a Canadian citizen. We have lived here several years, but also lived in Canada several years, our sons were born there and have dual citizenship, and we have numerous family and friends still there. The Canadian Health care system has been so good to us, and I hope that we in the U.S. wake up, and get something similar to what they have. My sons are grown, just graduated from college in the last two years, and had difficulty getting health care because they both had knee surgery in high school (sports injuries). They pay an enormous amount of money for it. We NEED a change, to make it affordable for all. My aged parents cannot get all the help they need. I hate to see the country in turmoil and all the fighting going on, but, the bottom line is, in this country, change always comes with a price, and those of us who are genuniely CHRISTIANS as I am, need to be willing to give to those who need it, and to help all we can, and to make health care FAIR for all.
Obviously, there are a lot of really dumb people in America. If you're over
65, you are on Medicare which doesn't change under the new plan. Last I heard, no one was facing a "death squad" under that plan. When will the news channels quit giving air time to these wackos and start
giving the real news? Remember "That's the way it is"?–that was
the real news with no spin. Just the facts.
It's really very sad that the fanatical right wing would be against something so good for the American people. And their ignorance on the issue is astounding. Obama's Death Panel...ooooohhhhhhh! Socialized medicine...ooooohhhhhh! People, insurance companies and hospitals making a profit on people's illnesses is inherently wrong! What's wrong with you? I remember when I was a kid and hospitals were run by the county or a non-profit church. I was hospitalized with rheumatic fever for nearly a month and it didn't put my parents into bankruptcy court. My parents (staunch republicans) were against any health care reform until I asked them what they would have done today if I were hospitalized for a month. Even with insurance, they admit it would break them. If you don't see anything wrong with this then I don't know where to begin the argument. It all goes back to the people on Medicare who scream, "Keep the government out of my health care!" Ignorance and greed, plain and simple. You'd rather have a greedy insurance company dictating your health care rather than a government, who is by the people and for the people? In the same breath, republicans state that government can't run anything and then say we have the best military in the world. I've lived in five other countries outside of the US and trust me when I say we have the best postal service in the world...government. We have the best police force in the world...government. We have the best highways in the world...government. We have the best health care in the world...hardly...we're 37th. We have the most expensive health care in the world...definately! STOP shouting and try listening for a change. Try reading something other than Sarah Palin's ridiculous blog!
These protests are part of an “organized” or “grassroots” effort on behalf of the Republicans. They are disruptions that are indeed planned by the Republicans opposed to President Obama’s proposed health care plan. Wake up PEOPLE can't you see and think for yourselves. This is a mass destructional plan set up by the republicans to block anything that President Obama is trying to do for this country. People need to take time to sit down and think about what is going on with a rational state of mind. So many people seem to let others make up their mind for them. People don't seem to be able to think for themselves. Take some time out of your busy schedules and do some research. Go to the White House Website and read for yourself. Stop letting other people make decisions for you. THINK FOR YOURSELF! McCain and Palin started all of this hate talk during the Presidential campaign and it is not going to stop. The media help spur it as well. So many people are up in arms why? Why do they want to disagree with President Obama so much? Just take some time to really think about what is going on especially when President Obama has been working 15 hours a day to get this Country back on track from what President Bush left him along with the thieves on Wall Street, Banks etc. These are people who have financially let this country down. All the people who oppose what President Obama is doing should be ashamed of yourselves. If you were watching President Bush like you are watching President Obama perhaps we wouldn't be in this MESS! The bottom line is that we need Health Care Reform. This is not anything that is new. Presidents have been fighting for this for decades. Lets' get with the program! The sad part about this whole thing is that people don't think for themselves and they don't research or read. We need Health Care Reform. The insurance companies are milking people. You know this especially if you are a senior citizen. Senior Citizens should not have to worry about their health plan. They worked all of their lives. They should be able to go to the doctor, pick up medication without steep payments and when they do get ill they should not be told that their insurance company will not cover them. This should go for everyone. So let's get on the band wagon and do what is right. The republicans will not work with President Obama on anything and they are doing their best to BRAINWASH people to think that President Obama is doing the wrong thing, but they are wrong. They have no plans but the plans that they had during President Bush time which has gotten us into all this mess in the first place. Please!!! Thank God for President Obama!
Is it such a surprise that the American people are fed up with the lies of Washington! These congressmen and Senators wont be sharing the same Health Care reform they expect us to use. If that were the case there would be real reform. People are not being heard that it why there is so mush uprise., There is honest protest from the majority of people over this. Congress and the Senate are not listening. The majority of people do not want Nationalized Health Care!!!!!We will all(except congress and the senate) be subject to this, It is time the news reports the facts not just Obama opinion. I am a Demorate but this is the wrong path no matter what party. We shall see come election time how many staged protests there were. People will start voteing out those who refuse to listen. Dem or Rep it won't protect them anymore. Their vote will start to show and the American people will voice their opinion just like during the Clinton administration!
The Koch brothers of Koch Industries are behind the disinformation campaign to kill any meaningful health care reform. They fund Art Pope's propaganda machine called "Americans for Prosperity" based out of N.C. which is spreading deliberate misinformation, and causing the disruption to block the politic from communicating effectively with their elected officials. CNN need to help expose the Koch brothers in what they are doing- especially David H. Koch the Osama Bin Laden of our nation. AND I am a conservative Republican saying this.
i think now in America we finally agree health care reform is an important issue that needs to be addressed. i wish i had an answer to the problem, but maybe if we could peacefully debate this issue with congress in the town hall meetings both sides of the argument will agree on some type of resolution so Congress and the President sign a bill into law that fixes a now broken health care system. health care needs fixing, and it is the American people who needs to express what they want in health care because it is not Congress, or the President who will suffer or prosper it is us, the American people. if you do not have your health what do you have. lets stop the fighting, and move forward with a health care reform plan we all in America will live a long healthy life with...
Jaimey Perham
Bridgeport, CT
USA
OK The protesters could be nicer but many are feeling that their voices are not being heard or that the politicians are "writing them off". The surveys show the majority of Americans do not want public health care. In addition most Americans do not believe the politicians are reading the bills before they vote on them. The 787 stimulus package that had to be signed basically overnight is a prime example.
Concerning the Taliban's winning: The Taliban is funded by the poppy fields. Why not spray the poppy fields with a defoliant? No poppies, no heroin, no money for the Taliban. With no income to finance their operations, no operations. No operations, American lives are saved. A simple, obvious solution.
Why did CNN try to down play the :Tea Bag" gatherings of all kinds of political opinions when these citizens were telling the "for change" government that they are spending this country into oblivion. Any new programs run by the government will be a spending disaster. Look at all the past administrations and the people who are still in Congress that were there for them. Government can't run anything within a budget. Some regulation is needed but nothing that has anything to do with increasing the size of government.
Pete
Plainfield. NJ
I just want to know where my senators view on this health care and more information on what they are voting for. I just looked on Senator Bill Nelson's website and I can't find out what his views are and U can't get any education on what is really in this bill. I believe if they told us exactly what was in the Bill we wouldn't be so upset and worried about what they are doing in Washington. He should outline what are the benefits in this change. I am not paid or organized for my views. And I am upset because I have a different opinion that it can not be my own idea.
And Lois, they said to hit back hard, and a man, (who was just working for a living) got beaten and had to spend a night in the hospital! Thugs... Vote em all out of office. Take back our land! Could you ever have imagined such behavior from our leaders...ever?
You said "fishy"?? Lin?? Maybe you should send all of the illegal acts done by this administration and our leaders to the Whitehouse. Isn't that where we were told to send the "fishy" behavior??
Besides, We the People, are the true Americans! We have this wonderful Constitution that gives us rights. One of these protected rights is...the freedom of speech! It is a shame to hear a leader tell its people to "shut up", while refusing to listen to a majority of its people! We do not want the healthcare program, were not paid by anyone, and at least we know that we were NOT sent an email by the WH to attend these protest to stir things up! We attend because we are truely patriotic American taxpayers who have a genuine fearr of this administrations lack of respect for the American People. Listen to your People! They are screaming to be heard! It is a shame that they have to scream because they are not stupid people and they are well aware of the harm that will bestow upon us all if this bill passes. Please say NO to this horrible bill. I have too much care for my country, my family, and Americans ....just to stand by and watch ths happen to us! Blood was shed for us to Enjoy a Contitution and all of the Rights it has to help us as a People.
I am an unpaid democratic voter, not paid by insurance compaines, unions, nor anyone. I am changing my party soon. I will be a democrat no longer. No one in my house will be after this terrible experience! I show up because I have a right to be heard. When I do, lying to me is not the appropriate way to go about it! You only upset the PEOPLE by acting as if they are just stupid! I give Americans much more credit that this. EDUCATE yourselves and study what rights you may have in your Constitution. You may wish that you had one day!
Just truthfully answer the questions, then there should be NO problem. TRUTHFULLY!
I am not an activist or belong to any group or protest. Like many Americans i can go to the internet and research sections of this Bill
HR 3200. I think I know more of the content than Congress (Both Parties)
I do not like it or want it passed. It amazes me that anyone can complain
about American people using their Freedom of Speech we currently still
have.
Why is that the media fails to mention the President's call for the Unions
and ACORN as they have done in the past to "hit back hard"against
American citizens ? No comment? Media should do their job or are they
to exempt from this Bill as Congress and Senate.I believe they must have elder parents or family members whose end of life will be determined by a Committee .I think the Media is afraid to speak against this Administration.
I don't understand why the media ignores the controversy and lawsuits that surround the birth issue of Barack Obama. Something is 'fishy' here. This issue could have been put to rest last year, but the very fact that it wasn't makes it more suspect. Where is the indepth journalistic 'integrity' afforded the US media by the Constitution? I don't get it, nothing has been proven, nor disproven. Stop the name calling and report the news, all of it. "Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgment that something else is more important than fear." ~Ambrose Redmoon
Dear CEO Rand:
I have learned that AARP is supporting government controlled health care, which would limit our choices and raise our taxes. Why would you do this? I think Dick Morris gave us the answer. He said you were doing it with the hopes that AARP expects to profit from it. He said AARP is now helping ObamaCare gut the medical care of its constituents. Please cancel my membership as I have NO voice and a few are deciding for the Majority. I am not affiliated with any republican group, I am associated with thousands of senior citizens determined to be represented if not by you then we will start a grass root voice that WILL BE HEARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PS
Please read below and write Mr Rand and anyone that will listen to us and not ignore our concerns.
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AARP
601 E Street N.W.
Washington, DC 20049
Phone: 1-888-687-2277
E-Mail: A. Barry Rand, AARP
Someone should point out that protestors or objectors to any of the Bush policies or his administration were not allowed to attend any of his rallies or press conferences or were religated to roped office areas at least 1000 feet away from the event. If someone did manage to sneak by undetected they were IMMEDIATELY escorted out of the event. The tirade being unleased by the Right-Wing Nuts would not have been allowed during Geo W's Presidency.
Betty, Regarding madrassas, we should start, or help the Afghanies, start building schools to teach the Afghan children, in safe zones. Either protected by the Afghan troops, or our troops, or a combination ther of! First, making them free bording schools, bused in to keep them safe from the taliban. Because if we buld them anywhere, the taliban will take them over by force as is the way of the taliban. We have to help the outer areas of Afghanistan build an infrastructure or they are fair bait for the taliban. In the long run it would be less expensive for us, regarding our troops and their lives, and the cost of war. As with the economy, it will take a while to do this, but it is the only ending to our intervention in Afghanistan. Please read, "Three Cups of Tea." Joyce Stengel
Will someone PLEASE give Sarah Palin a copy of the Healthcare plan (she obviously doesn’t have one!) and highlight the section that states the purpose of a health board?? In fact, I would like to see Obama sit down with her to personally show her the plan and dispute her ridiculous claims and interpretation on national television. I would especially love to see her response to an intelligent explanation. I think it would top the Katie Couric and Charlie Gibson interviews! I don’t know why she bothers me… the more she talks, the more she is digging her own political grave. I should be thankful that by the next election people will SURELY know what she is. However, can’t count on that… we elected GWB for a second term knowing he lied and ordered an invasion and ultimately caused the worst recession we have seen in my lifetime.
George, sorry there guy, but the emails sent out to the SEIU and to the Unions, were sent out by the "goon squads", and I agree with that. What I do not agree with at all is who sent them! Right now there is an investigation that those emails were sent out by our CHIEF! Who else would call out ACORN? Te PEOPLE??? That statement was just too funny! The GOP has nothing to do with this. The groups( which there were not many) just told thier people to do to the meetings and to speak out while they were there! The actual people who showed up at the meetings were a "grass roots movement" and I am surrprised that it took them long enough to SPEAK UP! The people have been attacked and even racially discriminalized, and even assulted so badly that they had to be admitted into a hospital. The shirts that I seen in the picture said SEIU on them, and I really don't thing that the GOP has much to do with one of Obamas organizations. You?
We are being terrorized by the "chicago team of thugs" ...or otherwise seen as moblike behavior, and now the American People are starting to wake up and see that. Why blame the other side for the horrible acts that the dems are doing to keep this outlandish power trip ggoing? Congress just got all new "class act" planes to fly around in (at our expense), soo where do you thing there ending vote will be? We're being sold off...all by the use of OUR own money! What a disgrace!! People, vote them ALL out next election. They mislead you terribly and it will never stop! Look at the assults that took place at these meetings, and you can read the shirts all for yourself! Your own eyes will not diecive you as some other are trying to do!
Carolyn, if you just stand by and give them 8 more years, you may just lose your beloved country! Look at what happened after just 6 months!!! Frankly, I think that OUR jobs should come home! I think the racism issue should not be fueled by officials wishing to keep power. I do not want such lies told to me any longer. You will be in serious jepardy if his bills do pass, and the American People are beginning to see that now! I knew they were smarter than they were being given credit for! Pay attention! Educate yourselves daily!! The demos are really hoping that you are not watching.
And, one black person, suggesting to have been sent an email to go there, beat up another black man while calling him the "N" word! I hope he was arrested! This was thugs that were sent an email to go and stir up things! Embarrassing acts for the American People! So, George, your comment just completely misleads the people. Look for yourself people!!! They are hoping that you are buying into this.....nonsence! Look at the actual videos that are being shown on Fox News, for one. Look, then you can judge all for yourself! We don't need a "George" to tell us what we did not see!
you know?in my opinion,although we are liberals,independent and democracy,we need to listen to the rights.Because president have spoken the rights for many people,who need to find a good method for innovative health care plans.Listening and deliberating are always right for us to absorb the best information,which promote our future.
Let's see... insurance co's price people out of coverage when they get sick, they jack rates as much as they want, exclude whoever they want and refuse to let Dr's preform necessary (costly) proceedures...talk about coming between you and your Dr! I can understand why these greedy corporate types ignore peoples suffering... what I can't understand is why any moral, decent person would support them...well, except for most of the elected repub's who are bought and paid for! I won't even go into what a lack of character supporting all the obvious LIES indicates. I mean none of these people are acting in a moral, christian way. And in my humble but accurate opinion, they are a lousey excuse for an American!
I find it difficult to agree with a health care plan that Obama said, and I am paraphrasing here, "VOTE FOR THE PLAN AND WE WILL FILL IN THE BLANKS LATER". Does anyone but me have a problem with this? I am an American who wants healthcare for everyone, and even those who are not Americans. None of us want to see people who are ill being turned away from hospitals–I just want a plan that works, and one my great-grandchildren don't have to pay for
Health care is nice and all, but why aren't you guys talking more about the "Cash for Clunkers" program? That's where all the action is! It's working great to stimulate my personal economy and we need to give it even more money. I sell new cars to Democrats, Republicans and Independents without discrimination at all, so come on down to my lot this weekend for a great deal!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LcYZxGdY8U
-Uncle Sugar
I am so disappointed with the media (CNN).........I'm beginning to think that most of the media are representers of the republican party. Why are you guys allowing these unsuccessful town hall meetings to get media air. This is not a republican or a democratic health care re- form problem, but it's an American problem. President Obama is all about helping the American people, that's why we elected him. He's not some crazy loon, he knows exactly what he's talking about and if you sit and read and understand his policy and see how it will benefit you as Americans, there wouldn't be this hudge issue that's tearing us apart as Americans. The Republicans are against the middle class, they only care about the rich and what the rich can do for them...........If Obama's policies come into play this is going to limit them from getting over on the middle class Americans. They have ridden on our backs for decades...........we need to wake up and smell the coffee, the republicans are bullies and they are blowing alot of hot air, and for you non educated people attending these town hall meetings. You are looking really stupid on television, and when you watch yourself on the news and see how ignorant you sound, you will then hide your face as your peers are looking at you and shaking their heads in disgust.......... and for Sarah Palin, I can't believe you even have an opinion, you QUIT your job, and you have let down your Alaskan supporters, Sarah as far as I'm concerned, " YOU DO NOT HAVE A VOICE" and please get your Health care facts straight, before you make a statement and call President Obama evil.........I guess you had lunch with Rush Limbaugh, because you sound just like him and his goonies over at fox network...................I'm sure he informed you of what to say.........get your own life.............I thought you were trying to stay out of the media, that's why you quit your job. So why are you on the CNN news page with an opinion regarding healthcare. Your son and your family are well taken care of. Stop using your down syndrone son as an pon for your crazy views. Get over yourself, write your book, build your relationship with your husband and take care of your grandson, and stop popping up on CNN...........we as Americans do not want to hear your winning..........we are sick of you and your Republican good ole boys.................
There is absolutely nothing wrong with an open, honest and CIVIL discussion about health care. But part of the problem is the lack of understanding by folks about how serious this problem really is. The other part of this problem is the misrepresentation by so many groups about the President's approach. There are several very basic issues here. First, despite GOP claims, care in the US is not the best in the world by any measure. For some people it is excellent, for many it is adequate and for lots of others, it is nonexistent. Second, despite GOP claims, insurance company that have dominated the field for thirty years are not our friends and have not brought us a great system. Insurance only works if you don't use it. People with any sort of either major illness or chronic illness are not welcome in the insurance world and experience significant problems. Third, we have cumberson, complicated and inefficient medical system. Our lack of technology in record keeping, coordination of care, lack of team approach are all problematic. Fourth, we have philosophical issues that resolution. How much care do people get – everything and the most no matter what? That's fine if you have the money and resources. Fiffth, there is incredible fraud not only by health care providers but by folks submitting claims they know are not appropriate. Finally, we all have to face the enormous cost of people who have no access. The nonsense that the current apporach works is not consistent with the facts. We are all paying enormous costs for people with no access. This requires everyone to give a little. This is not one of these "everyone for themselves" issues and we have to get out of the selfish mode to find ways to make health care work for everyone and not just "me first".
These rent-a-mob town halls are disgusting. The participants are old enough to know better but they would rather let hate mongering C students like Sean Hannity and Glen beck do their thinking for them. For instance the Death Panel ,Palin the non-reader is going on and on about is actually YOUR right to have a consultation while you are of sound mind to decide what measures if any should be taken at the end of your life. Who should have a health care proxy, do you want to be kept alive through machines etc. If you want someone in Washington who's never met you swooping in and making these decisions them go ahead. You last days can end up like Terri Schiavo, with everyone offering an opinion and discussed nightly on the news. If you don't want a public option then don't get it, keep paying whatever price the private insurers demand. Me, I like choices, I may only eat frosted flakes, but if one day I want Raisin Bran or Special K, it's there. I look at having health care options the same way.
Isn't anyone else incensed by the comments of RUSH? This is a man who made his fortune by having an opposing view to anything and everything that our elected officials have tried to do. Freedom of speech is his and MINE and I say I am not entertained by the bombastic language that serves only to incite fear. I'd say run for office to promote change, but I can't imagine the chaos with him in any real position of prominence. I can at least TURN his rantings off. What I can't turn off is those who quote his file language and insinuations. This man is as dangerous as any man/woman he seeks to discredit.
This administration deserves the CHANCE for change. Bush had 8 years and we know where that got us.
No one was arrested in Tampafor disorderly conduct at the town hall debacle. I saw people fighting, pushing, shoving, yelling, name calling, and disrupting what should have been a public informational forum. I wonder what could the professor have done to be arrested in his own home for disorderly conduct if the conduct of these guys is not considered disorderly. Where is the line that divides disorderly conduct from passion? Could this be a double standard?
How I miss Carol Costello. Used to wake up to "Daybreak", the early morning news show she hosted. Wish you all could use her more on American Morning.
I could not believe a story I read that quoted Sarah Palin as saying "Obamas' healthcare plan is "evil". To use words like that is the scariest thing for me. This word implies something sinister. If this is coming from a supposedly mature politician I am disappointed. It really does seem like the republican party are so against him succeeding they are puttiing a current of mistrust in Obama that I hope will fail and prove to be moment of change. Mickey
I DID NOT THINK it was POSSIBLE for the USELESS PATHETIC GOP to become EVEN MORE PATHETIC ,, BUT THEY HAVE .. AFTER the NEO NAZIS took over the GOP they have proven to be able to slither out daily from under their rocks and crevices.. NOW the NEW NAZI GOP sends out GOON squads and THUGS to disrupt TOWN HALL MEETINGS ... I GUESS when the GOP finally NOW SHOWS its TRUE COLORS ,to AMERICA , IT IS REALLY the U.S. NAZI PARTY and the SWATZIKA is the real. GOP FLAG .
With all the resistence to health care reform I have to ask–what are people afraid of?
Estimates say that up to 1/3 of the health care system is waste and fraud. You don't think that needs reform?
If you like the insurance you have you can keep it–what's the problem there?
Reform doesn't necessarily mean losing anything. It's cleaning up a very corrupt system that's destroying our economy.
And what do you suppose my own reaction to these disturbers of the peace are ? I am a 1937 Refugee from Nazi Germany, and former witness to events and behaviors quite similar to what we are being exposed to at community meetings everywhere.
I recommend that we be on the alert about these fascistic outbreaks. What we need is more civilized discourse, not less of it; more respect for differences of opinion, not less of it ; more and better information and not less of it.
The scripted use of violence to disrupt town hall meetings is a dangerous tactic. This is all being scripted by Dick Armey and a health care mogul named Rick Scott. Woe to the democratic process if Hitler-like bullies are allowed to hijack legitimate debate.
Health Care Reform is not a Democrat or a Republican Issue, it's an American Issue. We need to stop all the scare tatics and really get to know what is on any bill that has been proposed. Tired of not knwing what it's all about. and tired of the hearsay and rumors. Facts please.
Sharon, the Democrat, has got it right.
Too bad most of the News Organizations refuse to see it.
People are against this Plan for many reasons and they come from all walks of life and politics. Republicans in many cases are just as mad at their Republican representatives, as they are at the Democrats and President Obamanation.
These public protest are a means by which the general public can show that they are not being properly represented by their elected officials (EO's). We the people are saying that we, the majority, do not want this health plan and the EO's are ignoring us. My fear is that the protest may grow more physical.
I would suggest to get a vote directly from the people, but that would set off a mad dash by the dems and repubs to fix the results.
Best thing to do is drop it for now. Concentrate on the economy of this nation by putting all emphasis on job creation. Bring the overseas jobs back to US soil. I would be willing to pay more for "Made in USA" than "Made in China".
I am not against companies making profits. I am against greed. Profits have been made, the shift of wealth has been great. It is time for America to regroup. Bring our soldiers home to guard our borders while we give jobs back to LEGAL AMERICANS.
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