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November 13th, 2009
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Is our military too 'P.C.'?

By Carol Costello and Ronni Berke

Did “political correctness” allow Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan to escape detection and allegedly kill 13 people? Some conservative commentators and politicians are claiming that.

Arizona Sen. John McCain has already done what the military is urging Americans not to do , "speculate" about the motive in the Fort Hood killings. Calling the killings “an act of terror,” he said, “this may sound a little harsh but we ought to make sure that political correctness will never impede national security.”

McCain is expressing concern about allegations that Hasan's superiors played down his extremist views because they didn't want to alienate a Muslim soldier. McCain is not alone. Conservative columnist Ann Coulter said on Baltimore's WBAL radio, “It's just I think the constant increasing menace of liberalism ... we're certainly getting it from the commander-in-chief.”

In reference to Gen. George Casey, Coulter said, “It’s pretty shocking ... and here I thought they didn't allow gays in the military ... shocking!”

Others, like Democratic Representative Joe Sestak, a former Navy admiral, dispute that view. Sestak insists the military should be diverse and its leaders sensitive to minority soldiers. He said critics like Coulter are doing soldiers a disservice, at least until all the facts of the case are known.

Watch: Is our military too 'P.C.'? Video

“If there’s anything they should be advancing, it’s, wow, think about the stress they’ve gone under,” Sestak said. “That’s what we should be highlighting. Not going off into right or left field, until we know."

The U.S. Marine Corps rejects the notion Muslim extremists are hiding in its ranks for any reason. First Lt. Josh Diddams told CNN the Corps, “has not seen any trends that indicate individuals are any more ... likely to be involved in an incident based upon their religion."

A look at history seems to bear that out. In March 2003, Sgt. Hasan Akbar, a Muslim, killed two fellow officers in Kuwait and court documents indicated religion was a factor. But there are many instances of solider-on-soldier killings where religion is not considered a factor.

In May 2009 Sgt. John Russell allegedly killed five fellow soldiers. In 2004, Senior Airman Andrew Witt killed a fellow airman and his wife. In 1995, Sgt Will Kreutzer killed one soldier and wounded 18 at Fort Bragg. Those incidents weren't seen by our country's leaders as potential impediments to our national security although some say they should have been.

What do you think? Is our military too 'P.C.'?

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soundoff (121 Responses)
  1. Jon

    My comments are purely my own and do not reflect upon the US Government or the US Military.

    I believe if your not in the Military, then you need to keep out of it. I'm not sure what you people do for a living, but I'm sure that there is Favoritism, Racism, Sexual Harassment, and Prejudice in all aspects of life and your jobs.

    People use the Military as a target because they expect it to be some grand organization. Now I am in the Military, I love the Military. I believe I was raised properly and treat everyone fairly. Now if I work with someone who is "ghetto" or is a "redneck" or "uber religious" thats not my fault, or theirs really. They may be a product of their environment. But honestly, WHO CARES.

    So to say the Military is one way or the other is absurd. Its the people in it. Granted we are supposed to bring pride and be a great reflection upon citizens of the US as what the Military is. But really? Its the same as anywhere else in the country. We do a job. We live our lives. Not excusing people, but when you say its a "Muslim" attack (and i'm a white christian), and we have people come home and blast away their spouses and kids because of stress. How is that different?

    Who is worse? The person who killed for religious reasons (which is one of the main reasons for warfare across the entirety of history) or the person who came home and killed his family due to stress?

    I am not condoning anyones actions. I just get so aggravated by people jumping on bandwagons and thinking that this should be done or that should be done. Everything will happen in its own way.

    Get back to blogging the Tiger Wood story as well.

    December 3, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  2. linda

    and as for the gays in the military there always was and always will be in the military. All us reg ppl knew it and they were part of the group, accepted and did their jobs well. Its the brass that make a big deal about it. They didnt work with these men and women, we did. They did their job and did it very well. They don't want you! Get over yourself. Leave them alone. As for the loud nosey houswives making all the noise about gays in the military, when you are wearing the uniform then you can have an opinion, till then shut up.

    November 24, 2009 at 5:22 pm |
  3. linda

    Scott, I did 20 years in the military and I can tell you the military from day one did try to shove Christianity down peoples throats. Since when was it a requirement to be Christian? They mad you feel guilty if you didnt attend church in boot camp, gave you extra duty if you didn't attend. Out the the fleet the Baptist Christians in the South were relentless in the office constantly attacking the one muslim guy in the office who btw just minded his own business. They harassed him about pork and why wouldnt he date these nasty women? They never once tried to learn about his religion, only assumed they were correct. The base child care centers cram christams down the kids throats even if they know the parents are not christian. The list goes on and on. And yes skin heads were a problem as well.

    November 24, 2009 at 5:17 pm |
  4. Rick

    YES the military is way to PC. Todays troops are too busy with cell phones, video games and ipods to wipe the milk from their lips. The military is NOT supposed to be touchy feely, you are supposed to be firm and give orders that WILL be followed, not questioned because they might offend someone who's constitution is too weak to handle the tough job being in the service is. If you cannot handle garrison in the states how are you going to handle live fire in the mountains/desert/jungle? You cannot wave your hands to stop the shooting and ask for a timeout because someone isn't being nice or said something that offended poor johnny. Get over it and get the job done. Call an apple an apple and an orange an orange, even if it isn't their fault they were "born that way". Cut the BS and cut the PC!

    November 20, 2009 at 3:57 pm |
  5. Birch

    Some of you need to wake up. This entire Nation is to P.C. from the Schools to the Halls of Congress, most everyone is worried about hurting someones feelings. I'm ashamed some days to call myself an American when I see what we have become. And yes I served my country for over 18 years.

    November 18, 2009 at 1:50 pm |
  6. Mitchell

    CNN you quote in your written story that the U. S. Marine Corps rejects something simpily because one 1st Lt. Josh Diddams said they did. I bet he really speaks with the official vioce of the Corps. CNN you are a disgrace, you should be ashamed-but then being one of the main voices of politicial correctness you probibly don't have the ability to be ashamed.

    November 16, 2009 at 7:22 pm |
  7. molly

    P.C. is just part of the dumbing of America, which precedes the downing of America by about 25-30 years. 30 years from now the U.S. will be little more than an oversize banana republic. We will no longer have to worry about the rest of the world hating us, they will be too busy laughing at our hillbilly-sino-afro-hispanic population and it's constant lawsuits to gain "respect" from a society that can no longer even spell respect.

    November 16, 2009 at 4:50 pm |
  8. Kyle

    @ Becky... deluded are you?

    The Qu'ran (not Koran, you uncultured fool) often refers to Christains and Jews are brothers 'of the faith.' Certainly, it looks on them as being misguided, but not infidels to be killed.

    If you're claiming that you have read the Qu' were obviously drunk, or high on somehting...that is perhaps the only explanation I have for how you interpreted the Qu'ran to be a murderous script.

    If you're referring to holy which case, I will refer to Surah 22, verses 39-40 of the Qu'ran:

    "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors."


    "To those against whom war is made, permission is given to fight, because they are wronged."

    I am no scholar of words...but it looks like the Qu'ran gives permission to defend oneself...not go and murder someone.

    Go read the Qu'ran...indeed.

    November 16, 2009 at 4:21 pm |
  9. Jack

    CNN, this is exactly the type of slanted reporting that drives your readers and viewers away. Fire these left wing activists you call reporters and hire real reporters and people will start comming back to your site. Otherwise continue on the path you have chosen and keep making excuses for poor reporting done by liberal hypocrites and your ratings will continue to slide to the point of no return, or are doing this on purpose to land a government bailout package?

    There were eye witnesses that the "alleged" shooter was shouting Allau Akbar as he was "allegedly" murdering his fellow soldiers. Having been in the military, unlike this "alleged" reporter, I can definitely say is is way too PC. Kind of like TSA searching a 85 year old hispanic lady at the airport. Never heard of an 85 year old woman hijacking a plane, but we have to be P/C...

    Get a new reporter, and regain some credibility.

    November 16, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
  10. Becky

    You know what really kills me is that the liberals hang onto a psychotic, misled "christian" who was totally in the wrong for killing that abortion doctor. And may I say that there would not be one Christian in this country that would back him up and say he was justified. Murder in any form (especially murdering unborn babies) is a sin to a real Christian. But Hasan has been made a hero by the Amam that has turned traitor to our country. He was counseled to do this. He was lied to by this "religious leader" that murdering innocent people would earn him great rewards in "heaven". I don't call this a religion. I call this a murderous cult. Read the Koran people. If you don't become an Muslim, then you are an infidel and all the followers of Islam have the right to kill you. Let's not be PC here. Read the fine print and quit being too afraid to stand up for the truth. What Hasan did was just as the same as the guy who murdered the doctor. MURDER IS MURDER!!! But what you need to understand is that Muslims will murder anyone who is not muslim if they are called to by their leaders. IT IS IN THE KORAN!! READ IT!!! This is not a peaceful religion. Quit being ignorant America!!!!!!

    November 16, 2009 at 2:36 pm |
  11. LEB

    If the military only accepts straight white (to avoid race problems) male (to avoid sex problems) Christians (to avoid religion problems) who are straight (don't ask, don't tell), the US military is going to run out of people to go fight wars REAL fast. Only about 37% of the American population is white and male... and not all are Christian, straight, or willing to go get killed in foreign wars.

    November 16, 2009 at 2:24 pm |
  12. Becky

    I find it hard to sit here and sense the hatred of people for Christianity. Why don't you all just go ahead and say it. You hate Christians. I have figured out why. It is because Christians act as a mirror to the world and you don't like what you see when you look in the mirror. We still believe in truth, honesty, hard work. Black is black and white is white. There is no grey area. Liberals and others want us all to be grey. This is what they call PC. I call it weakness. It is time our country returned to it's foundation. Whether you like it or not, this country was founded and based upon Christian principals. The reason we have begun to fail is because our people have turned their backs on the one and only true God. Yes, I believe these others have the right to worship their gods but that doesn't give them or the atheists in this country the right to attack and demean the rest of us that believe there is one true God. Christians are not afraid to fight for their beliefs but as a whole we are as our Heavenly Father is–we are peacemakers! NOT PEACEBREAKERS. In the last 50 years of my life it has not been the Christians on the attack but the liberals. They attack us on every side. Everyone has their rights to their PC but Christians. It's time for Christians to find their voices again and quit being afraid of this POLITICALLY INCORRECT SOCIETY. Yes, Mr President, you will find some of your biggest critics among Christians but that is because you are turning our country into a socialistic society. BUT MR. PRESIDENT it is among these Christians that you will also find the people who pray for you on a daily basis that you will have wisdom to lead our GREAT NATION.

    November 16, 2009 at 1:59 pm |
  13. jeff127

    Ofcourse its too PC. If it werent this guy would never have been in the position he was in. I particularly like all the expert left leaning opinions on here by people who dont know squat about the military and have never served a day.

    November 16, 2009 at 1:01 pm |
  14. Dave

    In a word, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    November 16, 2009 at 12:54 pm |
  15. Shana

    As a recent veteran, I can honestly say, "It depends." In non combat units YES the PC train is overwhelming. In combat oriented units the cohesion is so thick you can cut it, and there tends to be more vigilantism where soldiers "take care" of the problem on their own. Both lead to problematic ends IMO.

    November 16, 2009 at 12:53 pm |
  16. Alverant

    No, given how religious discrimination, sexual discrimination, and other forms of discrimination is common in the military, any honest person would have to say the military is NOT PC. Those whining about how PC has ruined society are just mad that they no longer have special privileges and have to treat others as equals instead of second class citizens. They're also the first ones to complain and attempt to censor when they are the ones offended.

    Offending people is only OK if you're a white male conservative christian.

    November 16, 2009 at 12:23 pm |
  17. Sean

    The real cause of this spree? Incompetancy within the military organizations tasked with preventing this from happening.

    Yeah, the losers who dropped the ball are quick to blame 'PC' knowing that a crescendo of dittos will erupt from America's middle-aged and low-income population.

    Don't believe it. Men and women failed at their jobs for whatever reasons they had to be failures, but PC is not the problem here.

    November 16, 2009 at 12:04 pm |
  18. Sean

    Our military is not PC enough. The constant flow of evidence of Christianity being forced on soldiers by their commanders is evil.

    To blame Hasan's killing spree on P.C. is pathetic. How about the endless wars we are in? "Fighting them over there so we won't have to fight them over here" was glib and short sighted.

    Our war-like chickens are coming home to roost. The cost of war can never be contained within the military.

    November 16, 2009 at 12:01 pm |
  19. Scott

    In regards to Colins remarks-"How else do you explain the large number of skinheads, white supremacists and christian fundamentalists causing trouble in the military without repercussions".
    I'ved served 19 years in our military and proclaim the christain faith. I've never knocked anyone for their beliefs or remarks about beliefs or races. I've served 19 years to protect that right just like I do to protect your right to blame christains for the problems in our country. We are not the problem, the problem is this country has lost it's morals and it's logic that you can't fight an enemy and let him serve you at that same time. You are either for us or against us. It's that simple, you either defend the USA or you fight against it. Trying to make everyone feel good in uniform will not work. You have to set and maintain standards and liberal America has seen to it to make that unlawful because it hurt our enemies and people who don't believe n standards feelings.

    November 16, 2009 at 11:57 am |
  20. Andy

    Political correctness is nothing more than a method of getting around the first ammendment ("You can't say that, it's not politically correct").

    However, in this case I think it's more likely the issues weren't ignored, but weren't handled the way they should. The main issue is discrimination, not political correctness. The higher ups in all government organizations from local to national are so scared of someone claiming bias against one thing or another that they overlook so many problems.

    For example, you get someone who's a minority of any kind, either racial, religious, gender, height, weight, age, etc. who isn't doing their job like they're supposed to, and management lets it go because of the possibility that the individual might claim discrimination (and of course the unions would side with the individual).

    Government would run much more smoothly if they didn't accept these claims of discrimination because a lot of the dead weight would be removed from firing those who don't produce.

    Recently where I work (government), a whole lot of people got moved around to get groups of people who did similar things into the same physical areas as others. One person from the area I was in was assigned to do something she really didn't want to do, but it was something she was qualified to do. She had refused to do quite a few things during the time I knew her, and was pretty combative quite frequently to the immediate supervisor and others. Well, seems she got her way since she's still at the same desk, but she strikes me as being the kind of person who plays both the gender and race card whenever she's asked to do something she doesn't want to do. Yet, she gets her way and nobody will say enough is enough, just because they don't want to be accused of discrimination.

    Political correctness should remain where it was initially intended, that being in politics. In regular everyday life, it has no place. It stifles free expression, and makes it so people can't really state what's on their mind without having to search for neutral (can we say bland) ways of getting their ideas across.

    November 16, 2009 at 11:53 am |
  21. clark

    yes it is too PC .... for the following reasons
    1. more civilians replacing active duty ... which has the unintended consequence of causing a decrease in tradition, and comraderie
    2. the claim of top officials that "diversity" is our strength .... even though it is not .... it is our historic values that give us strength
    3. a larger and larger percentage of "schmoozers" are being promoted rather than the true movers and shakers
    4. just as with the Russians in the past ... our people are telling their superiors what they think their superiors want to hear rather than providing their best analasis ... because schmoozers are more likely to get promoted
    5. only lip service is given to "honor, integrity, courage and committment"
    6. the services are more liberal now ... and less conservative ... example they are turning the Chaplain Corps into another branch of the Social Workers

    November 16, 2009 at 10:45 am |
  22. Mitchell

    It looks like we are heading to be a bankrupt and socolist country, but at least it will be "POLITICALLY CORRECT" as we go down the tubes. Give praise and thanks to the liberals and the politically correct so called news media that support their point of view that has caused this. To all of you that are mindless politically correct sheep....shame on you.

    November 16, 2009 at 10:39 am |
  23. RM

    Barack Obama cannot admit this Ft. Hood incident is terrorist for three reasons. First, it happened on his watch. That's not good for getting re-elected. Second, the admission would offend Muslims, whom Obama is desperately trying to appease. Thirdly, it would be telling the plain, uncensored truth, something Obama has such a hard time with.

    November 16, 2009 at 10:32 am |
  24. RM

    If a Christian assassin were to slaughter 13 fellow citizens and comrades in arms while shouting "Christ is Great", would one suspect his motives were religious? Yes? Maybe? Then why do we feel the need to deny that "Allah akbar " is an expression of religious fervor by an assassin during a murder spree? And why are we so horribly, painfully, ghastly afraid of offending Muslims by telling the all too obvious truth?

    November 16, 2009 at 10:24 am |
  25. Ryder

    This is not political Correctness but merely a lack of leadership. The folks in charge at Walter Reed knew they had a "marginal " officer. They also needed bodies for deployment. The "bean counter" mentality took over and after all" they had invested in his education" and needed to get a deplyment out of him.
    They passed their problem along to the next unit. A very common practice when leaders are reluctant to do the counseling, paperwork, and procedures to justify a "show cause" board and separate a marginal officer.
    Cave Creek, AZ

    November 16, 2009 at 10:08 am |
  26. Whitney Ivey

    Yes, our military is far too P.C., our entire country is far too P.C. and it's a systemic problem. If our country is repeatedly attacked by extremist Muslims, shouldn't we be looking for extremist Muslims when an attack occurs? Hasan should have been red-flagged long before he attacked at Fort Hood, not because of his religion but because of his extremist statements.

    November 16, 2009 at 9:59 am |
  27. Otto

    If I am told to be PC in my daily actions then I am being censored. Isn't it my right to say what I want about anything I want? Remember freedom of speech? Someone chastising me for my opinions and my way of expressing them is even more out of line than a hardcore bigot openly expressing racist ideals. A bigot is only expressing their opinion and not telling others what theirs should be.

    Thoughts and opinions should never be feared or looked down upon no matter how crude or offensive they may seem. The oppression of thoughts and opinions is by far the greater threat and the PC culture of today is nearly Orwellian in its dogmatic insistence on conformity. If people aren't allowed open expression, subsequent ideas and interaction are shut down. This is counter productive and goes against everything that made this nation what it is. To be PC is simply un-American.

    November 16, 2009 at 9:52 am |
  28. Mark L

    Of course the military is too PC. It's been a growing problem for the past 20 years, nothing new going on here.
    The reason that the founding fathers put a civilian in charge of the military was to keep the generals and admirals from charging off to fight, all willy-nilly, without the approval of the elected civilian leaders of the people. Under that same idea, it kept the military leaders from having to be political, since they only had to please their civilians leadership, not the whole population of the country.
    But today's military has become a political machine, where one non-PC mis-step can ruin a lifelong career. Sadly, today's military leaders are often times more politician than warrior, and that fact reflects on the military as a whole. Never mind if we can fight a war, so long as we do it in a nice way!

    November 16, 2009 at 9:50 am |
  29. John

    The Military has been PC for a long time. I was in back in the 80's and remember seen a article in the Army Times saying how Muslims were allowed to wear a turban with there uniform. For everyone else it was wear what you were issued and wear what every one else is wearing. They were also allowed to have beards which no one else was allowed to.

    November 16, 2009 at 9:25 am |
  30. Dee Byrd

    Is Ann Coulter a graduate of the School for the Grammatically Challenged?

    She is quoted as saying,"It's just I think the constantly increasing menace of liberalism ...we're certainly getting it from the commander-in-chief."

    Whatever she's getting from the commander should be kept to herself while she finishes the sentence she started.

    I mean is our children learning?

    November 16, 2009 at 9:19 am |
  31. rick

    it i funny we have to hear all the stuff others want to say but if we speak of god we can get in trouble and face jail, as we have walked on others right to there god

    we talk about the para miltray groups popping up all over, what do they want our jobs have been shipped over seas to other countrys so corperation can make a bigger pay check for there CEO's

    we are now being told we may have to go to jail if we do not get heath care insurance, hell i have a hard time even getting the kids that lve with me the stuff they need under heatlh care the goverment pays a company a maintance fee on a device that has not worked for years but the company refuse to provide a new one of to repair it and this has been reported to medical no one cares

    no child left behinds is the biggest joke i have seen, with all this money for learning what are we getting for it we have teachers that have to go with the flow but have little interest in teaching i saw the other day where about 75% of the people thatw ant to join the service are turned down to being to fat [not pc] or not able to read and write at basic level

    i have been trying to get seen for over 3 years now for a service conneted injury from viet nam and still can not get an appointment

    the say this new heath care plan with not go to others that have no right to be here but yet we can not refuse to provide services to any one guesss what

    i ahve to prove i have the right to be here but if i walk in to a place and tell them i have no right theu can not ask for proof

    funny we go to DMV here and have to take a number and wait in line but if a person that has no right and can not even speak our way goes stright to the head of the line, in case of raid so they can leave fast

    we used to be by the people for the people but it is very clear we are now by the corpersations for the corperations

    there is a war coming you can see it every where you look you can only push the people so far and i feel we the people of the US are nearing that point

    November 16, 2009 at 9:05 am |
  32. SirReal

    Yes, the military, and our society as a whole is definitely PC. I am middle aged, white and educated.

    I am not a racist and was raised in a military family during the Kennedy/Kruschev years. I was raised "non racist".

    Our fear of profiling (PC) has moved us away from center in our value of diversity. Diversity is fine when all members of any diverse culture tend to the same trends. Yet there is within our culture a base of people who don't hold our values. They would like to see us fall. I propose we return to some level of profiling to ensure the safety of all in our culture.

    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck, then its probably a terrorist.

    November 16, 2009 at 9:00 am |
  33. Veritas

    Religion has nothing to do with the story...unless it was a christian extremist who killed 15 people in an abortion clinic. Then CNN should focus on religion and only that!

    November 16, 2009 at 8:51 am |
  34. Xena

    I am a disabled, retired, combat vet., and retired CID special agent. For those of you bashing the military, until you served...

    November 16, 2009 at 8:16 am |
  35. Ken

    I believe what Major Hasan committed was a terrorist act and he is a terrorist, even if he did not have the explicit backing of any organized group or state. With that said, what I am afraid is happening is that anyone that is Islamic and commits these acts are considered "TERRORISTS" but if it was a white christian, this would be a "CRIME" committed by a "CRIMINAL". I don't wish to be PC, but call it what it is, regardless of the religion of the Terrorist.

    November 16, 2009 at 3:59 am |
  36. Veronica Speedwell

    That sorry excuse for a man needed to see a shrink years ago. He has a persecution complex. He's alive but won't remain that way for much longer. Either the military or the state of Texas will see that he gets to deflower his virgins in the hereafter A.S.A.P.

    November 14, 2009 at 9:04 pm |
  37. SgtMike

    PC most definitely has an impact.
    Over the years I saw scores of sub-standard soldiers "let-slide" because they knew how to work the system. Any time a superior tried to clean-up these losers, they'd instantly run to the Equal Opportunity office screaming about their "persecution," and the superior would have to either back off or face the EO Inquisition. Most quickly decided it wasn't worth the effort.

    November 13, 2009 at 2:30 pm |
  38. Stephen

    Yep our military is too PC. Lets only recruit white people into our armed forces because can we really trust the minorities in this country? If CNN is still considered mainstream news, it is truly sad our country is once again welcoming racial profiling into the mainstream.

    November 13, 2009 at 1:40 pm |
  39. Irl Gladfelter

    Doug noted: Islam is not a religion. It is a world-domination political movement, carrying out its expansionist goals through murder, cleverly disguised as a religion.

    My comment: Islam is indeed a religion – and a missionary one at that, which it holds that sooner or later will replace all other religions.

    But it is also a culture, political movement, even a form of nationality, the "Dar es Islam" and a legal system in which "natural law" is "Shariah Law," which theoretically "trumps" the laws of every tribe principality, and nation-state. All of these factors need to be kept in mind in dealing with Islam.

    November 13, 2009 at 12:40 pm |
  40. C.Selke

    It seems to me, Politicians make decisions based on what is best for themselves or moreover what is popular ; not what is best for the country anymore. Oh.... but we sure did at one time.

    Terrorism and threaten our security. Many people, the news and politicians are redefining morality based on what is popular or convenient.

    Not to get to hillbilly but, They (Muslims) /(Not saying all,as i am majorly confused) come to our country then try to force their insane culture on the people (this doesn't go on anywhere else only in America). They have no intention of assimilating. If they want to live under sharia law they need to stay in their own countries, and not come into ours and attack and kill people in our own homeland. They can deny it all they want to, but the Koran tells them to kill us every chance they get. They need to know that their bloodthirsty ways are a threat to society and we need a better safeguard from them. We have rights too. Or do we?? It is getting to be slim-pickens.

    How can a Muslim believe in our Declaration of Independence and our American Constitution? How can a Muslim be a part of our fighting force and represent our commitments to our beliefs and cause? I don't see how.
    Food for thought. Since 1972 there has been 3,308 Americans killed by Muslims in America in 65 terror attacks. That is alarming to me. Im no expert on this matter but it looks to be getting worse. Read where i got this info and see for yourselves.

    I heard a great lecture a week or two ago by David Barton. Please go give this a listen.

    Note: The video is lengthy but worth the time viewing!

    In closing,I am confused over the mind-set that America in some ways should be in charge of the safety and refuge of everyone else on earth. America has grown to be the cat lady, taking in every stray that comes in the yard. America has been the caretaker for so long it doesn’t know how to “politically correctly” clean its own porch off in fear of throwing dust off on its neighbor. You know that neighbor who never talks with you unless you seem to get out of your car awkwardly at the same time. So because you have a few mice you allow the cats to take over your porch, knowing you need to do something but you just put it off over and over and now you can't afford to take care of your family for the reason that the cats have come all to comfortable and wont leave. When is enough – enough? PLEASE for the love of God, not Allah clean our porch off and take care of our own for awhile and lets get back to the road of self-respect.

    November 13, 2009 at 11:38 am |
  41. bill campbell

    I would like to know how much money the government spent to replace those gay,language professionals from the military and how much damage was done to our security because we had nobody to read the intercepted information that was in comming by the truckload? The GOP demanded their removal without understanding the consequence. Please could someone answer how much damage was done to our security and our nation?

    November 13, 2009 at 11:21 am |
  42. Mark

    Carol, are you saying that all the other hype over "hate crimes", "sexual harrassment", "crimes of passion" is BS. Are you "just sayin" that the murder of an abortion doctor or the destruction of an abortion clinic should be simply considered murder and vandalism, or as your suggesting in this case, insanity. No, you probably would think this to be senseless. I'm "just sayin," for most of us, its a better understanding of the nature of this hidious crime and the mass murderers motive - not a war cry aganst muslims.

    November 13, 2009 at 10:39 am |
  43. Michelle

    I could just see what these blogs would look like if the technology had been around during Hitler's time. The excuse makers would be saying things like the following: "But Hitler was abused as a child. But Hitler had mental illness. But Hitler or his family probably got rejected or taunted by some "banker" of the same nationality he targeted for extinction, thus justifying his rage. But Hitler was a lone psychotic – no more, no less. But we have to understand what shaped Hitler. But we have to be concerned that if we say the truth about Hitler, it will make other Germans look bad. But if we call Hitler a despotic, mass murderer, there will be a backlash agains Germans/Austrians (his real nationality). But we have to show empathy for the bad guy."

    This is what all the emotion-dripping, perpetrator-empathizing, excuse-making, "can't see the forest for the trees" bloggers and media doofs, resisting the truth, sound like today. And just when we think the consummate doofis, Mr. Obama, couldn't look any more inept, he announces he's going to allow the 9/11 mastermind to get a CIVILIAN trial, which as we all know, means dozens and dozens of opportunities to be set free on legal technicalities. Truly bindboggling days we live in.

    November 13, 2009 at 10:10 am |
  44. Rabi Singh

    The nation must openly accept the truth.

    If he is mentally unstable, then lets call him mentally unstable.

    If he is a mentally unstable, Muslim terrorist, then lets call him a mentally unstable Muslim terrorist.

    The President cautioned about jumping to conclusions, but on the other hand, are we willing to accept the truth no matter what it turns out to be?

    November 13, 2009 at 10:07 am |
  45. MaeOhio

    Here we go with the bleeding hearts!!! AGAIN... Heaven forbid we should step on someones toes and tick them off or offend them. If you don't like America, leave! If you don't like the Army, don't join. Everyone has become so consumed with worrying about some religious groups or racial groups. Time and time again, Americans have to make allowances for Islam, blacks, hispanics, gays.... whichever!!! You name the group, and everyone needs to tip-toe around them. WHY? The Army along with any other military organizations should have a standard rule. PERIOD! NO POLICITAL CORRECTNESS REQUIRED. Extensive psych evaluations, and strict adherance to the uniformity of the military, otherwise, don't let them in. Raise the bar on all of them. Let's stop worrying about who is going to whine and cry about their "rights" being violated. One military standard for all. And please keep your religious or racial whining to yourself. Frankly, good Americans are tired of hearing it. It's getting old. Get over yourselves already. Thank you, and God Bless America and all of our brave military that have/had the courage and dedication to defend our Great Nation, we thank you! Proud mother of a vet.

    November 13, 2009 at 10:02 am |
  46. Mitchell

    Political correctness is very much a problem in the military. I retired from the military in 2004. As a commander I was always afraid of doing something "politically incorrect" and getting into trouble. "Sensitivity training" was and still is manditory for all in the military, from the lowest ranking to the highest and that is only one facet of the problem. The liberals in power for so long have required political correctness as the basis of their social engineering plan. I could go on and on with examples of policy both written and otherwise. Socolism has never worked anywhere in the world. However I would believe that the current crop of socolist leaning liberals feel that socolism has never worked simply because they have not been the ones in charge of it. CNN you are definately part of the problem with your mostly biased reporting in favor of the liberal/socolist point of view.

    November 13, 2009 at 9:30 am |
  47. JohnT

    Where have you people been the last 15 years. The whole federal government, including the military, has been too politically correct for a long time, whatever that means. Federal hiring, retention and promotion has been heavily influenced by politically correct equal employment opportunity, affirmative action and the concept of be careful, you might step on somones toes, with the exception of white males for a long time. We are supposed to be a truly "equal opportunity for all nation," so lets make it that way. Given that, please focus on the tragedy at Fort Hood and not make it a political issue.

    November 13, 2009 at 9:29 am |
  48. Sara D.

    "My experience as a military commander says yes. PC gets in the way of our ability to swiftly seperate substandard soldiers for a variety of reasons. It takes months and hundreds of man hours to seperate a soldier for any reason (performance, medical, behavior, criminality). By the time you get done going thru the process it is time to deploy again and the soldier in question ends up on the rear detachment and draws the same pay as the troops facing danger overseas."

    With all due respect, sir, I'm not sure I understand your point.....what does "swiftly separating" soldiers have anything to do with someone, being vociferous about their own personal, albeit extreme, religious convictions? Indeed, there were tell-tale signs, but no one could actually forsee the terrible tragedy at Fort Hood. Don't get me wrong; I don't have a modicum of sympathy for this scumbag- but we cannot deny the fact that this issue is still somewhat polemical because of the stigma towards Muslims post 9/11. I'm not terribly politically correct; in fact, sometimes I cannot stand it! This is actually a perfect example of how political correctness can impede this country from running more effectually. However, there are also other forms of relgious extremism to take into consideration. The most disconcerting aspect, in my opinion, is the fact that he was a physician- someone who was to be trusted. I honestly hope that there is no reprieve for this hateful individual.

    November 13, 2009 at 9:16 am |
  49. ronvan

    For the record I am a 23yr "ret" Army Viet Nam Vet.. In talking with many soldiers, officer & enlisted, while I worked at Ft. Benning, it became obvious that being "PC" was paramount in making daily decisions. When ANY soldier is "forced" to consider "PC" before issuing an order we are in deep trouble.

    November 13, 2009 at 9:11 am |
  50. Paul in Pittsburgh

    The military cannot afford to be anything but PC when it comes to maintaining its personnel strenght, especially its combat strength. Its ranks are filled with minorities, especially Latino. Ever notice how many foriegn nationals are given citizenship every year based on their honorable service in the military. The combat ranks are filled with an inordant amount of foriegn nationals (especially Latinos), primarily because the military has great difficultly filling its ranks with American born and raised solders. Look at the incentives given to Americans to serve, i.e., huge monetary bonus' and payoff of college loans to serve and still they have trouble. PC is necessary. That being said Husan should be taken out and immedialy executed for treason and morder of 13 honorable Americans.

    November 13, 2009 at 9:01 am |
  51. Matt Jacobs

    Here's is something not PC, but very true non the less: Diversity is killing our nation when we look to hire people based upon their diversity! Diversity on its own actually dilutes our nation's founding principles. When you can't call a duck a duck, or a dog a dog, things get lost in translation and we lose our moral compass and our ability to think objectively and truthfully. Do a google search on PC words and you'll see why the Obama administration can't come to grips as to what or why we are fighting a war. Until he does, he'll continue to vote "present" and that is destructive to our nation.

    November 13, 2009 at 9:00 am |
  52. Howard

    If someone joins the Army they must be held responsible for following the obligations that they agreed to. If the obligation includes protecting the counry from all threats then the person must be obigated to not make threatening statements regardles of their religion and other people who accepted that same obligation must be held responsible for not reporting and taking other actions that they are empowered to do regardless of their religion. Individuals in the Army must not be held to a higher or in this case a lower standard because of their religion.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:51 am |
  53. J Anderson

    Respect is a key part of the military philosophy, if this were to change, it wouldn't be fit to represent the government in the ways that it does now. I would rather our military be as sensitive to diversity as possible. After all, it is the organization with the greatest amount of weapons in the country. If a subset of people is portrayed by the military as undesirable, it's not a big leap to think that that particular subset may be targeted during a crisis. The military represents our government, and should do so in matters of discrimination. That being said, if a threat of violence or a inability to handle a job (be it mental or physical) is consistently observed, that person should be handled in a proper manner. It seems Hasan, for instance, had some anger issues apart from his religion as a Muslim. These issues could very well have been cited to investigate his ability to handle his job as an officer.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:51 am |
  54. Cathty Zak

    Political correctness is killing people. We don't want to hurt anybodys feelings so we just overlook bad behavior or perhaps deranged individuals? Where is common sense? Where is freedom of speech, we can't say anything anymore without feeling the PC police come and get us.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:50 am |
  55. Doug

    We are witnessing an Islamized America. This is well beyond political correctness. We are enforcing Shariah law. We will not insult Islam. That is Shariah law. We self censor. That is Shariah law. We disrespect ourselves, our nation, so that we might respect Islam. This is dhimmitude. We should be raging. We should be outraged. We should be strategizing for this worldwide conflict. We should be debating about which leader will best handle Islam's war on the West. And yet we have not one leader who begins to understand the conflict - that's how feared the subject matter is. Not one leader.

    Islam is not a religion. It is a world-domination political movement, carrying out its expansionist goals through murder, cleverly disguised as a religion.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:50 am |
  56. Amy Duffield

    The fact that Maj. Hasan was never called out by the military for his extremist views is indicative of a wider problem in our society: noone is willing to make a judgement call and therefore take responsibility for a decision. Everyone wants things to be all spelled out in the rules and to do things "by the book" because then their rear end is covered!

    November 13, 2009 at 8:49 am |
  57. Mike

    Political Correctness can be defined many ways, depending upon one's perspective. I would venture to bet that the majority of non-muslims who committed mass killings within the millitary were from the South. The old Confederacy to be specific. It's not politically correct to discuss the connection between the regional make-up of the entire US Millitary and the values of those Americans born and raised in the South. Wheither being from the South contributed to individuals acting in a particular way or not; one thing is certain -it would not be politically correct to remind a large segment of the US Millitary that their ancestors committed treason against the very same nation that they are now defending.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:49 am |
  58. Taurian

    Isn't this an oxymoron, a POLITICIAN complaining about POLITICAL correctness!? You're the people who set the standards and now you're complaining that they should take a backseat!

    And in all seriousness the POLICY makers, ie the politicians, need to be concerned about how far we drive our suspicions lest we end up becoming what the enemy already says we are: Anti-Islam or Superficially tolerant.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:48 am |
  59. chris

    Our military should do more physc screeningperiodically to include views on religion and the extent they are involved and other variables such as loners etc. to help us single out the "Jihad Joes"

    November 13, 2009 at 8:47 am |
  60. Irl Gladfelter

    As a retired Army officer, it is not for me to say whether or not the military is or is not too "politically correct." If it is, however it is not the fault of the military. The military will follow the lawful orders given it by the President as Commander in Chief and the laws passed by Congress to the best it their abilities, implemented through the chain of command of the various services through the Defense Department to the various branches and eventually down to the unit level.

    If the military were to be too "politically correct," and I am not saying that it is or is not, that is on our civilian political leaders; and they are the ones to initiate any changes and order their promulgation. When they do that, the military will implement those changes to the best of its ability.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:46 am |
  61. Nick

    If P.C. isn't a factor in this situation, could someone explain to me why a person getting less than satisfactory performance reports be permoted? I believe that many minority's radicals use P.C. as a tool to lessen the requirements for whatever minority they represent.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:46 am |
  62. scott

    Of course it is,the whole country is.We have white haired grandmothers removing their shoes in the airport.If all the traitors during the american revolutionary war had red hair and one eye,do you really think the forefathers wouldn't have been keeping an eye on them?They certainly wouldn't be commanding the troops!

    November 13, 2009 at 8:44 am |
  63. Brian Carter

    The term "Policical Correct" was first used by Joseph Stalin. Anyone not following the party line (polictical Correct) was either killed or locked up. Stalin used it to sensor free thought and speach.

    Today PC is still sensorship and very dangerous. We should be able to think what we want, read what we want, say what we want ask any question After all we are a free society and not being PC may help to weed out evil before it strikes.

    Political correctness plays into those societies that do not have free thought or freedom of speach. They love it when we sensor our selves.

    Nova Scotia Canada

    November 13, 2009 at 8:44 am |
  64. Miles

    Given that 3000 soldiers reported rape or sexual assault last year by other soldiers, (See I'm thinking "too P.C." is the least of the military's problems.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:43 am |
  65. Ruth

    THANK GOD, and thank you for "just saying", my son is on his 5th deployment, this is one of the many things I worry about, I am so sick in my heart as a american mother of "PC" we are at war afterall and to let our enemy into our milatary, into the very center of our national serciriity? It just makes common sense , just as my son I do belive in giving the people of other contries a better life, but what happened at FT.Hood is just a little too close for comfort.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:43 am |
  66. Manuel

    Americans have freedom of speech and freedom of religion. Sometimes being PC is also respecting the legal right to exercise these guarateed frreedoms. The military is no different. Well informed and well trained officers and managers know the difference between Political Correctness and basic rights. IF PC came into play at Ft Hood, then management copped out on thier responsibility. They mustbe able to identify the difference. That said, while some of his comments may have been inappropriate, I have not heard anything which is beyond his basic freedom of speech. No commentator has identified language or speech which is not protected. Do not let these events affect our freedom of speech.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:42 am |
  67. Wais

    Thanks for the report on other soldier on soldier murders that has occurred in the recent. I'm not in the military but I have many friends that are serving proudly & many of them are Muslim.
    As a citizen my main concern is that the armed forces as a whole are not taking care of the many of its personnel that have psychological issues that lead to such tragedy. This has been true throughout the history of this country. I hope that the military doesn't double guess their comrades that are Muslims, but rather take care of those that show signs of psychological breakdowns. Perhaps Muslims soldiers are like previous groups of minorities in other eras of US military (i.e. Japanese in WW2, Blacks in Civil War).

    November 13, 2009 at 8:42 am |
  68. Frank

    I think the Military is using the right amount of P.C. Terroist use WMD's to make a statement and want to rule the World. Some nut with a gun doesn't meet that in my opinion.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:42 am |
  69. wolfgangpitbullingtonIII!

    This is nothing more than a continued attempt by the Left to weaken, and demoralize the fighting strength of the military, to label all soldiers as nuts. Frankly, the Left is unfit to rule this country. Political Correctness enshrined the most unqualified, anti-American, pro-Terrorist, appeasing, and capitulating president in the history of the country. The danger of Political Correctness is that it leads to Totalitarianism. Everything is already being censored/moderated. What needs to be said, cannot be said, because people cannot afford to hear the truth, until after someone has been hurt or killed. This country is becoming, more and more, like the former Soviet Union. Nothing is going to change until the American people get rid of the biggest national security "risk" the country faces. How do you spell that risk? O B A M A!!!

    November 13, 2009 at 8:41 am |
  70. Chester

    I think our whold country is being too politically correce. In fact I don't think it is correct at all. I think it is stupid. If I were one of the people who were shooting at him to stop the event, he wouldn't be paralized from the waist down, he would be six feet in the ground. The same goes for all the other criminals that are politively, without a shadow of a doubt should be executed within 24 hours of being captured if they were't killed in the prosses of trying to apprehend them. Like I said, He wouldn't be paralised from the waist down if I had anything to do with it. He would be six feet under the ground. thanks Carol for reading this on the air.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:41 am |
  71. Frank

    After 20 years in the Army, I can tell you first hand that political correctness is alive and well in the military. We have mandatory annual EO/EEO classes shoved down our throats to the point where every leader is apprehensive to counsel or fire a minority for fear of being labeled a racist. I can completely understand how Maj. Nidal M. Hasan was allowed to go on his rampage. Everyone is afraid to weed out poor performing minorities else be labeled a racist.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:38 am |
  72. Matt

    PC is far too pervasive, not only in the military but in society in general. The idea that deadwood is not identified and acted upon in any sector of society for fear of being accused of prejudice has us hobbled, unable to perform at reasonable levels of competence. I have always prided myself on not being prejudiced against any race or religion, but I do believe this has gone too far.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:38 am |
  73. Doug

    Carol, you have but to look at all of the annual mandatory training requirements to see how PC the military has become. Look at the frequency that they are given. The senior military leadership does it to look like they're doing something. Everyone in the military is an adult. Give the classes once and then refresh every couple of years! Also, Drill Sergeants in Army Basic Training have had their hands tied as to what they can say and do to correct a wayward troop. I remember hour long push-up / flutter kick sessions and hourly stand by inspections through the night for the Drills to make their point. Now all they can do is give them a stern talking to.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:37 am |
  74. J. Lockhart

    This is a very disturbing question that americans are to afraid to answer. This is where the multiculturism should come to a halt, and should not be mingled with in the military. And they ask us not to profile individuals racially, disgusting.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:37 am |
  75. Olivia

    What exactly does that mean "is the military too pc?". It sounds like a cover for saying that anyone who is not White and Protestant should be considered a threat to our national security. Should we be more vigilant in securing our national safety- absolutely! Should we use this tragedy to pray on the vulnerabilities and increase the prejudices of victims and American citizens- absolutely not.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:36 am |
  76. Matt Jacobs

    Costello, the way you covered the other shootings by soldiers and airman by comparing their actions with this terrorist shooting in Texas is the purist form of Political Correctness on CNN's part. Congratulations in equating a "murder for murder" justification. The difference here however...our nation (maybe your network has not realized it yet) is at war with a specific ideology. It is that ideology that Hasan used to kill 14 people in cold blood (yes, I counted the unborn child). I know that does not fit your storyline, or your agenda, but luckily there are millions of us Americans who can actually think and chew gum at the same time. Maybe that is why the ratings slide for your network? Oops...that probably was not PC of me to say.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:36 am |
  77. Michael B

    So if someone in the military expresses extremist views that pose a danger to themselves and others it's ignored for fear of being racist, but if someone expresses homosexual views it's crucial that they leave the military?
    PC has gone far too far

    November 13, 2009 at 8:35 am |
  78. James clay

    maybe not sleeper cells, could be sleeper individuals who are move to act in the name of religion. like a pro lifer who blows up a clinic.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:35 am |
  79. LM

    I am disturbed to the level in which the term “political correctness” is being usurped and used to describe an “internal hindrance” to outward discrimination as something negative. Consideration for others who are dissimilar to a perceived majority is an inclusive necessity for a pluralist society. That being said, the reality is that in general the military clearly needs to have criteria for ALL not for some. This idea of a double standard is the “real” problem; I see here, that is different than sacrificing inclusivity. Hindsight being 20/20, Major Hasan should have been held to the same standards as other soldiers and doctors in his field, if he was unable to fulfill what was required of him, which is what seems to be evident at this point, then there should have been an intervention based off of those facts and assessments. If there was an inability to assess him, than someone who had more knowledge should have been sought out. I really feel that the issue is using “double standards” not “political correctness”!

    November 13, 2009 at 8:35 am |
  80. Asher

    That isn't political correctness. Political correctness is calling people people, and not the N word or the F word. Neglecting warning signs is criminal neglect, not political correctness.

    November 13, 2009 at 8:32 am |

    Political Correctness has permeated the military and all aspects of American political life. Leaders at all levels have put islam above American values at the expense of all Americans.
    It must stop today!!
    Army soldiers, including the officer corps, are taught to set the example, call a spade a spade, speak up to deal with problems and follow lawful orders. They , by instinct and training will do the right thing as long as those in leadership positions back them up.
    The backlash to islam is just starting. Their loyalties must be questioned and proven or we face more American deaths.
    They need to assimilate into American society just as all other immigrants, including my own family has.
    America is for americans-be one or leave!!

    November 13, 2009 at 8:22 am |
  82. Adam Bell

    Well of course P.C. has gone too far in this country. Hasan committed the largest act of Muslim extremist terror on American soil since 9/11. Why are you having so much trouble saying so?

    November 13, 2009 at 8:00 am |
  83. Douglas Harvey

    Before I get started on the main body of this blog entry, I need to insure that you understand that the views expressed in this blog entry are those of the author and do not reflect the official policy or position of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense, or the U.S. Government."

    That said, I tend to be in agreement with the overall concept of "Political Correctness" as a detriment to our Nation's military readiness. There was a time, and not too far in the past where racial tensions and other behaviors were at such a level that they were impacting our ability to defend the nation. When I received my commission as a 2LT in the USAF in 1982 we were just crawling out of this period. Over the years since then, however, we have gone way out of our way to make everyone happy. The problems I have seen over the years are many. What used to be a valid reaction to severe social ills has now become a tool to be used to eliminate supervisors who are too dilligent in their duties (file a sexual harrassment or hostile workplace complaint and ruin their career) or who enforce discipline. Claim that your race, religion, or (soon to come) sexual orientation exempts you from certain duties or deployments and at least some of the time, you will succeed in dodging your duty.

    When I was on active duty in the USAF these problems were minimal. Orders were orders and that was that. We had a unity of purpose. As years of service went by, I noticed a more "liberal" trend emerging. In 1996 I joined the Alaska Army National Guard and since then I have been to several training schools, and deployed to Germany and Mongolia for various periods of time. The problem is still increasing. Supervisors have a legitimate fear for their own jobs in todays military. The threat of punitive action because another service member chooses to interpret a remark as derogatory or offensive in some form is very real. It limits the viable courses of action that a supervisor may take. The amount of time spent in legal consultations and "political correctness training" take away from the amount of time available for training for things such as warfighting and nation building. Further, because we spend all this effort to shelter people from things they don't like, they don't toughen up as much as they should. Annecdotal evidence, things I saw while assigned in Germany lead me to believe that at least some of the PTSD and suicide cases we have been experiencing lately are at least somewhat connected to this recent trend to protect our troops from anything they don't like, right up until they get into combat (which nobody in their right mind would enjoy) and then they don't have the tools to cope.

    The recent Fort Hood shootings may indeed have their roots in this trend to "Political Correctness". I have no direct knowledge of that, but it would not surprise me if it proved true. The supervisors of Major Hasan would have had a legitimate fear of speaking out against a man who was openly exposing his religion. Under some interpretations of certain U.S. laws, taking action against him for his religious views could be interpreted as a hate crime.

    I've enjoyed my years in the USAF and the Alaska Army National Guard, but I am alarmed at the trend. Personally, I think that we need to respect other people's beliefs and their right to expression even when we do not agree with them or like the views expressed. I served our nation to defend freedom. That includes the freedom to make an off color joke, or two every now and then. Some happy medium needs to be found.

    Douglas J. Harvey, LTC, MS, AKARNG

    November 13, 2009 at 7:39 am |
  84. Chad

    First and foremost i am not prejudice. I would haft to say if i were in the service (being that we are fighting two Muslim wars) i would have a big problem with a Muslim walking around in his or her get-up. You just cant expect it to be right. Furthermore, our country is getting way out of hand with forcing all these issues for people to except. Please don't get me wrong and i hope i don't sound like a redneck hillbilly, but .... enough already please. I don't know maybe it sound wrong, but i feel its wrong to think that we can fight in two Muslim Wars and have these guys running around in our army and think there is not going to be problems.
    Thanks and you all are doing a great job,

    November 13, 2009 at 7:32 am |
  85. Wanderer

    Let's not forget the fact that even if the military tries to be fair with everyone, which Political Correctness is, there are also a number of factors to consider. We don't know what pushed Hasan to do it, but we have to admit that the people around him had some influence on that. I definitely agree with Frankie on this one. You just don't know when people are going to snap.

    November 13, 2009 at 7:25 am |
  86. Ron J

    Uh….no the U.S. Military is far from politically correct . It is as racist, sexist , and homophobic as ever!

    It launches racist wars in Iraq, Afghanistan. It probes its members

    sex lives exhaustively based on intimidation and rumor. They hoop and holler and laugh as they blow middle eastern people up. They had to be watching Hasan .

    The politically correctness excuse is a smokescreen of a wider coverup.

    November 13, 2009 at 7:22 am |
  87. sheri

    Political correctness is a red herring. The issue in play with Hasan is the military's tolerance of bad behavior (often criminal) by its officers. Hasan is also a physician. Physicians' behavior and motives are rarely questioned.Physicians are not held to the same behavioral standards as the rest of the workforce. They are allowed to run roughshod over the rest of us, non-physicians. We tolerate their bad behavior because we are intimidated by them.

    November 13, 2009 at 7:21 am |
  88. Mr. Bromont

    Crazy lone gunman. It is a shame how this is looked at one way by so many, and the guy who shot and killed the abortion doctor in his church is not being looked at or said about as a terrorist. America can be it's on worst enemy by the irrational and illogical thinking of so many. These are the ones who keep this country so polorized and divided and in the societal problems we continue to have.

    November 13, 2009 at 7:10 am |
  89. D Shaver

    America is tripping over it's Political Correctness. Yes, we are a very diverse nation and we have to be fair to all. But we really need to learn from this and put our nations safety first. We can do that without stepping on our rights. Maj. Hasan should have been stopped long ago. It's also absurd that we are allowing radical extremist to stand on the streets in NY City and shout hatred to Americans and Christians. They should be stopped too. Why isn't that considered a hate crime? Why isn't it considered insiting a riot? Sure we have free speach and I am all for that, but we are at war and they are spreading hatred and recruiting those we are fighting. Theres a time and a place for being Politically Correct but our safety needs to come first. Our laws need to be changed for the safety of our Nation.

    November 13, 2009 at 7:01 am |
  90. Christy

    Not only is the military CLEARLY too PC, so is CNN and the media in general. The military overlooked numerous, obvious red flags b/c they didn't want to be accused of singling out a Muslim soldier, as they've already admitted. This was clearly a domestic terrorist attack for political/religious reasons. Anyone that is STILL in denial about that and defending/excusing Hasan in any way, shape, or form is as bad as Hasan. The other examples of fratricide in the military that Carol used as examples were personal vendettas, not politcal attacks so she was intentionally clouding the issue in an attempt to make Hasan look "not so bad". This is the problem with the PC media. Being culturally sensitive is much more important than being factually accurate and honest. So yes, not only is the military too PC, so is the media (CNN), and society in general. This country is full of a bunch of head in the clouds, delusional deniers. DANGEROUS naivete that will get more Americans killed.

    November 13, 2009 at 7:00 am |
  91. frankie

    If we even tried to protect America from incidents of such extreme mental deviation, none of us would experience freedom. Horrible deviations such as this major's behavior are far from the norm even for severely stressed people, religious zealots, severely mentally ill people, Ann Coulter, or anyone. This incident doesn't prove anything except that life is unpredictable.

    November 13, 2009 at 6:57 am |
  92. ken

    I'm a 20 year vet and the answer is NO. Please tell Ann Coulter to go and hide under a rock. How many foxholes have she dug from the freedom of our country??? Talk is cheap.

    November 13, 2009 at 6:50 am |
  93. Carrie Heath

    The concept of Political Correctness was a great one; like many great concepts its actual practice is almost incomprehensibly backwards from its intent. Rather than create an era of acceptance and peace, there is ever-increasing racial, socioeconomic, and political infighting and our society is colapsing again into pockets of "don't step on my toes or I will take you to court and remove everything you hold dear." It's one thing to teach our children and enforce the idea that we are all born equal (which I believe with all my heart) and quite another to say our military can't look into the background of it's volunteers if they fall into the racial or religious categories of Middle Eastern descent or Muslim. That's just saying that the color of your skin and where you worship gets you a free pass – and isn't that the exact oposite of the original intent of the concept of Political Correctness? It isn't just the military getting egg on its face, either. We need as a country to quit treating any race, class, or religion as protected in the face of PC – get off the wild pendulum swing to the far right we are on and settle somewhere in the middle where it doesn't actually matter if you are red, white, black, yellow, purple or green with pink polka dots. We are the melting pot of the world – time to quit trying to separate everyone. I am proud to be an American mutt, and I hope that someday everyone born here or who comes here willfully can embrace the commonalities and quit trying to make race, religion, sexual orientation, wealth and education a reason for poor behavior and judgement.

    November 13, 2009 at 6:48 am |
  94. lee

    As a citizen I'm growing increasingly exhausted by wingnuts and their conspiracy theories.
    IT’S A MAD MAN WITH A GUN! Horable , tragic, and rare.
    Our military is a spectacular, divers voluntary organization dedicated to protecting us..
    Let’s pull together and protect them in their time of need. It’s a tragic legal issue that needs to be taken to Justus. No more! No less!

    November 13, 2009 at 6:42 am |
  95. Sue

    PC probably did have a role in the killing of 13 people on an Army Base on American soil – but other factors need to be considered as well. It's an Army base – where were the soldiers- military police- with guns who were not there to take this man down? Why did it take a civilian police officer to stop him. Reports say she was there- good thing she was – still, you can put on a badge and walk onto a military base with a gun? Hasan supposedly was being watched – signs and comments that should have raised red flags and hackles were apparently ignored and people died. The government and all of the chain of command UP TO the top needs to be on the hook for the lives of these poor people.

    November 13, 2009 at 6:38 am |
  96. Andy

    My experience as a military commander says yes. PC gets in the way of our ability to swiftly seperate substandard soldiers for a variety of reasons. It takes months and hundreds of man hours to seperate a soldier for any reason (performance, medical, behavior, criminality). By the time you get done going thru the process it is time to deploy again and the soldier in question ends up on the rear detachment and draws the same pay as the troops facing danger overseas.

    November 13, 2009 at 6:38 am |
  97. Mark

    Yes, our military is far too P.C., our entire country is far too P.C. and it's a systemic problem. Standards are being lowered all over the board in order to allow minority groups to increase representation. Meritorious individuals are being denied promotion or scholarships while minorities are flying by them on fewer qualifications.

    Ft. Hood was a P.C. bred nightmare. It was a terrorist act, which Obama is terrified of accepting. Letting our standards slide becuase of fear of possibly "offending" a minority group is lessening our national security.

    November 13, 2009 at 6:36 am |
  98. Charlotte Goodson

    This whole politically correct issue is related to the military's not wanting to profile. I don't think we should profile, but perhaps a bit of perspective?

    If a burglary is committed and a 50's white woman is seen driving away from the scene, then the police should correctly search for a white woman in her 50's, right?

    So if our country is repeatedly attacked by extremist Muslims, shouldn't we be looking for extremist Muslims when an attack occurs? Hasan should have been red-flagged long before he attacked at Fort Hood, not because of his religion but because of his extremist statements.

    November 13, 2009 at 6:36 am |
  99. Bruce Hermansson

    PC is one of the things that has gone way to far in our society; its usefullness has been undermined with its own force to make everything and everyone into simple molds. We are all individuals and we grow in our diversity, but niching makes it so much harder for our individuality to be seen, heard and shared. As for this case the assasin was shouting "Allah Akba" as he killed, he was never fully scrutinized because of the idea that he would be able to retaliate in some way, ie sue happy people love to clog our courts.

    November 13, 2009 at 6:31 am |
  100. Colin

    Are you trying to be an A-Ball version of Glenn Beck? Yeah the military is too P.C. most likely. How else do you explain the large number of skinheads, white supremacists and christian fundamentalists causing trouble in the military without repercussions. Do some research on what the Southern Poverty Law Center has found for years. A separate but connected issue is the dominance of the christian right and their influence on the Air Force Academy, nothing good has come from that. Is the media too P.C. to investigate General McCrystal's cover up of Pat Tillman's death. And I've not seen one word on CNN about the obvious attempted manipulations of the Pentagon to force President Obama's hand. Obama should look to Truman's example and if need be fire someone in the Pentagon for insubordination.

    November 13, 2009 at 6:16 am |
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