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December 28th, 2009
12:00 PM ET

TSA implementing new rules of flying

There are new changes in the sky and on the ground since Friday's attempted attack on a Northwest flight. The Transportation Security Administration says these changes are already in place but won't be more specific.

What are they and how do they affect the way you fly? Our Jim Acosta has the report.

Related: More air marshals flying

Filed under: Airline safety • Transportation
soundoff (22 Responses)
  1. Eric

    Manny if you think real hard about it and remember how things in the government are run you would probably realize that you may be on the watch list because of the clearance that you have held in the past. You worked in the nuclear program. You have had access to information that is vital to the security of the nation. My thoughts would be you are on the list for the information you have been around. Is it right no and you have made yourself available to delay which is the way it is suppose to be. My concern is the people who think that they are being mistreated and hassled because of the delays. There is a reason for these list and these precautions. To try and prevent the loss of life. Is it always done the right way no probably not but is anything ever. Think about raising a child. Do you always have the right answers? No but you keep trying until you do the best you can. No one can stop this madness all together but some thing has to be done.

    January 5, 2010 at 10:22 am |
  2. Manny

    Eric (Dec 30) While you are ranting and raving about people ranting and raving maybe you want to read my entry dated December 28. Not everyone on those government lists should be on the lists. I certainly do not belong on them but try and get a bureaucrat to delete you from them.

    I am for the strictest controls, including profiling, BUT there needs to be care taken so that innocent people, like myself, not be wrongly (tacitly) accused.

    January 4, 2010 at 2:01 pm |
  3. annie

    Actually not every adult can 'hold it' David. That is why the word incontinent doesn't mean flying between European countries.

    I am also becoming increasingly cross at CNN's looping footage of women – three in total, who last time I looked were not the most likely gender to be terrorists, each getting their breasts circled in pat down. Not one man is shown being frisked – why not CNN? Boobs not perky enough for the editor.

    And Shammi states he is against profiling because 'Most importantly, you may totally miss someone because of "perceived" behavior or looks.' Yes indeed far better to waste the time of an unlikely terrorist than one packing explosives in his lower regions.

    So far it sure has been a case of luck not judgement – jolly lucky the explosives were faulty.

    January 3, 2010 at 10:54 pm |
  4. Eric

    I think that if you dont like the rules what ever they may be then you should just simply not fly. That way you dont HAVE to put up with anything that you feel is undeserving. I for one am happy to be put under what ever screening they come up with. People who complain about why is everything changing now because some one who was on a watch list got through with a bomb are the same people who would have cried discrimination and invasion of privacy for not allowing him to fly if they would have automatically put him on the no fly list. If you want freedom then you have to live with the fact that you do have freedom. You have the freedom to not fly if you dont like the rules. You have the freedom to run your mouth and rant and rave about others lack of freedom even if it cost you your life. If you dont rules that are in place in order to do things then you simply do not do them. Use your brain people wake up. The reason things go down the way they do is because governments are controlled by people who complain that things are not fair for this and that. Then when something happens all the sudden the government screwed up and its all thier fault.

    December 30, 2009 at 1:15 pm |
  5. Barbara Coston, RN, CDE

    After seeing the "underware bomb" I was wondering how the full body searches would handle sanitary napkins or tampax for women who travel during their menstral cycles. For that matter what about the millions of people who wear protective undergarments for bladder control problems. Why do you have "expert" after "expert" that discuss the "technical" aspects and limitations of the full body scan but never answer the first question that popped into my head after seeing your reports? I can't be the ONLY person out there wondering about this.

    December 30, 2009 at 8:04 am |
  6. Ronnie Dansby

    Let us take a look at the events of the past few weeks , before we get too far gone on who is to blame for the break in security. If the president can not expect to be safe in his own house in the United States; then how is it possible for the people of the same country; to now want to ask all the questions of national security. security starts at Home and requires a unified front; not some display of power of a racial or party group. please get a life and do the work of the country or leave office. There is an election in 2010 and we shall make sure to let all those who are not part of the solution to the country's problem, go try and handle their own!

    December 30, 2009 at 6:35 am |
  7. KH

    Richard Lerner: Which planet you have been living on?

    December 29, 2009 at 7:32 pm |
  8. john harper

    would you be willing to sacrafice yourself and/or your loved ones to keep from offending someone? If you're offended because of you're religion, race, country of origion or anything else that points you out with 'profilling' you are looking for something to be offended about.

    December 29, 2009 at 5:48 pm |
  9. Shammi

    I think profiling is completely wrong on several levels. Most importantly, you may totally miss someone because of "perceived" behavior or looks. This is so old school paradigm. I suggest that we make each person go through extensive screening. The airlines are such an easy portal for terrorists, let's all pull together and make the time to get screened. Nothing wrong with waiting a bit for a safe ride to where you are going.

    December 28, 2009 at 9:22 pm |
  10. Linn

    What good is a website of an international news organization when it does not report the latest news? I have had to go to Huffingtonpost and MSNBC to find out about the reason there was an ambulance at the Obama house.

    You have a 'video' under your announcement of new safety regulations at airports. Yet you haven't invested in a transcript. A video which I can't see on my Iphone is of no use to me. Whynot let all of us in on the news?

    December 28, 2009 at 9:03 pm |
  11. Ladylalae

    I strongly feel that anyone who makes the Homeland Security list should be DENIED total travel in the USA and forfeit their rights! Get off our ships! Get off our planes! Get off our land! Why wait until they act out? The question is NOT if they will act out but, WHEN and to what extend will our citizens and Country be in jeopardy? Anyone who willingly associates with these psychopaths does it of their own free will and should answer for it! BLACKLIST them. Period. End. No waiting! Anyone who gets on that list should have NO RIGHTS! The time of “wait and see” is over and done with now is time for ACTION! We were lucky this time….

    December 28, 2009 at 7:57 pm |
  12. adetunji emmanuel

    the boy is a bastard is not a nigeria is one of hawusa basterd in nigeria so pls tell the us gov 2help us take the hawusa out off nigeria and donp deem in the arab land bcu the arab are the terrorist

    December 28, 2009 at 7:02 pm |
  13. AeroGal

    My step father is a Northwest Pilot. It is unnerving to hear of any attempted attack on an airliner when you are the child of a airline pilot. Though many people complain about the increase in security when they fly, it really is in their best interest and I am greatfull for it. Personnally I think the entire security system needs to be rewritten, especially after this previous attempt. Having 3 of my 4 parents in the airline industry, I would greatly appreciate a security system that works. The previous attempt was too close for comfort and way to close to home.

    December 28, 2009 at 5:20 pm |
  14. ronvan

    Why do we have to "announce" how many air marshalls, type of screening, etc.? If you want to fly "deal with it"! We don't want our privacy "breached", but raise cain if a sub-human, terrorist gets on a plane. "SECRETS", "SECRETS". WE do not need to know and if I am flying I want to know that EVERY thing has been done to protect myself and family! WAKE UP!~!!!

    December 28, 2009 at 4:37 pm |
  15. Rui Rodrigues

    I for one have no problem with extra security screenings. Yes of course it will add time to your airport visit, and yes, you will have to plan on arriving earlier, but lets think about it. An hour lost could very well be continued life gained. I for one have learned to travel light. Whatever personal items you insist on bringing, can very easily be bought upon landing. No matter how much cologne or perfume you bring with you, your still going to sweat and smell pretty ripe after your 14 plus hour flight.

    "Bring less, live longer" sounds simple to me. And honestly, why complain about them screening your child in a stroller? It is just as easy to store something in their diaper as it is otherwise.

    No one likes to wait in line for anything. But just like your willing spend hours in line at Disney World for a great time, isn't it worth waiting in line for hours to arrive safely at your destination?

    I have never in my life flown internationally, but January first I am flying to the Philippines, and yes, I am scared, there is a subtle panic associated with flying that long with a metal tube filled with strangers. I sure would be willing to undergo extreme screening, just to ensure, those total strangers are on my side, and also just looking for a safe ride.

    I praise thse passengers who assisted in taking down the suspect, and not sure if I would have the guts to do it too, but one thing for sure comes out of this, falling asleep on the flight won't be easy for sure.

    December 28, 2009 at 4:28 pm |
  16. Richard Lerner

    I do not understand why we are being so 'PC" with these searches. Clearly it would be far more effective if these searches are reserved for the Islamic flyers, or suspected Muslim flyers. If you were looking for a child pornographer would you start your search in a convent? Of course not, lets get real and do some targeted investigations.

    R. Lerner

    December 28, 2009 at 4:11 pm |
  17. David

    For those who feel they are denied certain comforts during their flying experience, I would ask them to reassess the value of their individual wants, not needs, against the safety, security and peace of mind these measures provide for their fellow passengers and the crew members. Yes, we're all adults and don't need a hall pass to go to restroom, but as an adult, you can hold it. You're getting up is a distraction to crew who are not only ensuring your comfort, but your safety. They have to keep an unneeded eye on you going to relieve your bladder instead of that suicide bomber three rows up. And if you feel this is a violation of your inalienable rights, think again. These are government regulated private companies. If you don't like the polices you have to which you have to adhere, take a bus. But the terrorist bent on killing you individually will take this into account, and probably blow that up too.

    December 28, 2009 at 4:00 pm |
  18. Jim Murphy

    How often have you had items stolen from your checked bags? I think there is a lack of security in the baggage and ground crew. The TSA should screen workers as well. On a recent trip to Hawaii our bags had missing items.

    December 28, 2009 at 3:37 pm |
  19. AKChef

    classic knee jerk reaction...the screening fault was in Amsterdam not the U.S....I cant wait to stand in the Xray machine in my underwear having a TSA guy asking me to spread 'em the next time I fly from Anchorage to Juneau..what a joke.... the only way to stop them is to get them when they buy the ticket...

    December 28, 2009 at 3:25 pm |
  20. Mommy

    Not being able to hold anything on laps or move around for the last hour of flight is going to be murder on a potty training mommy of two toddlers (who need their blankies). Wish we didn't have plane tickets, I would rather drive!

    December 28, 2009 at 3:08 pm |
  21. Manny

    I am glad that the "no fly" or "watch" lists are finally being scrutinized. I have been placed on a list that has caused me much angst and delay. I cannot even fly nationally without being separated from my wife. When it comes to flying internationally I now plan for hours of delay as I come back home. I have had TSA officials unofficially confirm to me, in hushed tones, that I am on "the" list and there isn't a thing they can do about it. I am an American citizen, a Navy veteran trained in the nuclear program, held secret clearance at a shipyard, ordained minister, my town's police chaplain, CT. Dept. of Correction graduate, etc. Why do I mention all these facets of my life? Because I am well documented and have been well vetted by levels of my government and yet I am on "the" list and cannot fly without being hassled. The terrorists can get on-board but I cannot!!! These lists are ridiculous!!!

    December 28, 2009 at 2:14 pm |
  22. Jill

    I do feel they need to beef up the security. My comment is on the new x-ray machine. I think it will be good except for the fact that they are going to give you a plate to cover the private part. Get real if you think they won't try to hide something behind that plate, they are crazy. Terrorist will go to any length if they are trained to do so. x-nay the plate if you have nothing to hide it won't matter. If you are that modest don't fly. This is for all our safety.

    December 28, 2009 at 12:47 pm |