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To spank or not to spank?
A Tulane University study of nearly 2,500 kids found those who were spanked more at 3-years-old were 50 percent more likely to be defiant, have temper tantrums and hit other kids by 5-years-old.
Some say the evidence is stronger than ever against corporal punishment.
Today, the co-author of the study joins us to explain why spanking can lead to other problems as well.
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When I was in Basic Training in the Army we had I guy that broke down and could'nt function when the Drill Sergeant yelled at him. He was sent to mental health and they reported that he had never been yelled at or spank has a child. Everyone needs discipline
I second the comment from viewer who said a few spankings a criminal does not make!
I spanked both my children-tho always on the fat of the keester, nowhere else-to get a point across when they were in danger or were not responding to my words. They never became violent, are not criminals or other societal ill-behaving adults.
To let kids get away with their poor actions only cause them to be in control of the household, and grow into belligerent whiner adults. ( I can see that already in my grandchildren.)
The survey raises the question: Did the spanking cause aggressive behavior or was aggressive behavior the cause for spanking. I have raised two kids, and three grand kids and each is very different even though they have been exposed to the same context.
If a parent is spanking it is because they are too lazy to educate there child and too lazy to educate themselves. I spank my child 1 times in his 6.5 years do to the fact that he was completely out of control an needed to be brought to center. I hated that I did that so my wife came up with an oldie but goodie. The good old ear pinch. It would straighten him out and then we could talk to him and give him a choice to keep being bad or be good after we would explain the pros & cons of each. Make the bad choice then he would get punished (not beat) when he made the right choice we praised the hell out of him. It has been over 2 years and the pinch hasn't even come out. He now knows our mean face and straightens up. No need to hit or spank. Kids get out of control and they just need a quick jolt to bring them back.
About spanking –
1) we need a definition – when does spanking become bullying, or beating, and/or sexually exciting?
Or when is it part of an orderly home's management and structure?
2) the Bigger Question is:
-What other ways is the child being respected, helped, appreciated in his/her life?
-Could the family structure its life without the spanking?
-Spanking that is part of a modulated, loving and thoughtful way of life
is NOT the same as erratic spanking when a parent feels annoyed, tired, irritated or drunk.
I am the parent of two grown sons and two grown step daughters. I have have 13 total grand children, extened family and gene pool, from 3 years old to 20 years old. The most common thing about them is that they all respond differently to discipline. It is up to the parents and other caregivers to find out what works. I spanked my sons when they were small for some issues but used other methods most of the time. My children use a variety of methods that has included spanking when their children were small. All of these children are normal in their development. The most important thing I can come up with about being a parent is to keep a workable, though sometimes loud, level of communication with your children.
I can count on one hand the number of times I was spanked as a child. Spanking was used to leave an indelible mark on my memory. To this day I know it is wrong to run out in the road without looking and to bite my cousin. I was spanked very rarely, but it was effective on me because I always knew it was an option.
This is just an example of bad science. You didn't report on it, but did the study examine any other commonalities? Did the kids that got spanked more often have more aggressive parents? Did they actually 'need' to be spanked more? What are the socio-economic factors surrounding these families? There's so much that's missing and misleading to say that spanking leads to aggression. Spanking, like any other discipline, just becomes 'noise' when exercised too often. How many of the over-spanked kids smoke? If more of the kids that were excessively spanked smoke then you could say it's due to the spanking (being facetious here, but you get the point).
It;s cool to out source like that as long as you also take care of your countrymen as well. 60% of your idusties should stay home and then 40% they should be able to out source. Though why in the world would a country that set the bar in freedom want to have its citizens go somewhere else and slave labor other? Ohwhy? oh why, oh why ? we we do such a thing?
I don't understand why an adoptive parent feels like its ok to send back a Child with problems. If this child were their biological child, they couldn't send it back. wouldn't they love unconditionally and deal. There are tons of parents whose kids have behavioral problems and those parents never even consider giving up on their kids.
Spanking mainly teaches it's OK for big people to hit small people; it reflects the lack of parental skills to "control" their children any other way. It's just weak parenting.
I teach my children to treat others as they would like to be treated. By taking control of the situtation and putting my young children in time-out the correct way and talking to them how they could of handle the situtation works great. It takes longer but in the long run I saw them taking control of their feeling instead of me. The spank was a quick fix w/ no teaching. The don't hit and then hit them was only miss communcation.
Spanking is an excellent fear tactic, but should not harm the child. Growing up, I rarely recall my father leaving a hand print, however, I was certainly fearful of him if I had misbehaved. It's a healthy fear. I grew up in a family with six children, if we were not afraid of my parents to some extent, then we would have been very difficult to control. My parents even threatened us with a wooden spoon. It also straightened us out, but was NEVER actually used on us. Fear is good, abuse is not. You shouldn't hit your children, but a spank never hurt anyone.
I don't think that russian mother should send her kid back to russia to get adopted I they should send her ass to be adopted and find that child a loveing parent who has patients
If I were to do it all over again I would use spanking with ALL my kids. My older son did recieve a couple of spankings and was a well behaved child all through school and respectful of others.
My three younger kids were not spanking and none of them had respect for adults, authorities etc. They all had troubles in schools.
I think if kids were spanked these days we would not have some of the problems we are experiencing with guns and drugs.
I also believe that having a slight fear of a parent figure can get you through some of the tough years in life. If you are more afraid of your father than peer pressure, you can and will get through those tough teenage years and will thank God later you took the right path.
Recognizing that children start learning very early in life where the parents have set the boundaries. If parents set those boundaries early on, the kids will learn respect and spanking may not be needed that much in the future. Also, agressive behavior in the child may not be solely due to spanking but in part through the genes that child inherited. Does either parent have any aggressive attributes? Sometimes spanking is not a control event by the parent, but a reaction to an event that they cannot control.
A tarrif may help influence companies to think twice but with a company that controls, I mean holds, as much of our debt as china, this may not be the best approach. We as consumers in conjunction with the free-market should work together to reduce imports from China. "punishing" China will not bring about the desired results.
Logic says they were getting more spankings because they needed more than, so they were already more aggressive, it's not the spankings, it's the personality traits already from birth, and how they were treated from infant's spoiled ect. As a child we were spanked, and we all ,( my family) grew up to be ok people. There is less family time now, everyone's too busy. We all ate at table .noy on couch, at a certain time. we did things together
Sometimes spanking is the only way to a child's conscience. But there is a big difference between a spanking to get their attention and a spanking to inflict pain.
I was spanked as a kid and it did nothing for me except caused me humiliation. Now I have 2 boys who are 14 & 16 and they have NEVER been spanked. My partner and I take the time to talk to our kids about EVERYTHING There is nothing off limits. People are always amazed at how well behaved they are. There's no over night cure to making kids listen, you just have to be patient and respect them. Remember the old adage of Treat others how you want to be treated, and your kids will follow suit!
I was spanked when I was a child and turned out perfectly fine. I'm not aggressive or violent towards anyone. And my parents and I have a perfectly loving relationship unlike friends who I remember whose parents wouldn't use any form of corporal punishment. Children need discipline. They do not know boundaries as many adult. I see children talking back, insulting and sometimes even hitting parents who do not believe in any form of corporal punishment. These children grow into adults and do not know much of discipline and they themselves are aggressors or bullies.
"Spare the rod and spoil the child." Spanking can be constructive or can be destructive. Their should be a penal system within the family. First talk to the child let him go in his or her room and think about it and let him discuss his view. Do not punish them let them resume whatever. If they repeat the same act, the second time, they get one week in their room, a third, a spanking (don't kill the kid, but discipline him). A chiild becomes unruly and agressive and worse of all insensative towards others when he or she has no boundaries or a fear to cross those boundaries. It far worse not to discpline the child.
About the adoption story: I just moved from the Shelbyville area. Many of these folks think nothing of throwing entire litters of puppies or older, problem and/or unwanted dogs and cats out on the roads. Why should we think that they would treat a problem child any better than they have? It's a problem? Dump it!
Oh, and don't even get me started on the trash dumping problem ...
You dont buy American... cheaper goods....)... what ends up happening- companies close, people lose jobs- yes the retail sector, yes the "blue collar fields", impact us all! Its time for us to standup and make a stand- a true patriot would stand for American made products, services, and goods. A real American would stand up and send a message to corporations to use American workers (call tech support sometime), American made materials. Not if 80% of the parts of a car, is an American made car. If as much as a bolt is made overseas it is NOT an American made product! Think about it.. China is double dipping. They have a lion's share of a market for many products we consume... this has in part led to loss of jobs and companies...the government has had higher expenses as a result, and china has lent to the US.... so we could continue to do this- so in essence we are borrowing from walmart to spend money at walmart. Lets not forget interest... Why has it taken this long for the media question this? Balance of goods and services.. balance in trade.. balance in exp-imp is what is needed. Want to help the economy, OUR economy, than spend money supporting US companies- that means... that employ US workers and use US goods to make their products. Common sense people.....
This type of trade with China is exactly what put our steel mills out of
business. I buy American made any chance I get even if it cost more.
I live here and support this country and its hardworking peoplel.
I see it like this, if a child touches a stove that is not hot, they see nothing wrong with touching the stove. No matter how many times you say otherwise, they see no reason why they should not touch it. It is only when they happen to touch it while it is hot that they understand why they can't or shouldn't touch the stove.
There is nothing wrong with spanking a child. The problem is not spanking, it's lack of parenting. There are some who think it's cute when a three year old misbehaves and they miss the opportunity to discourage unwanted behavior that will later come back to haunt them. By the time a child is 13 most have established identities and personalities and it becomes very difficult to correct behavior. Unfortunately, this is when too many of us wake-up and start trying to parent. Start early.
People are "implying" that the violence in today's society is caused from lack of spanking. Can anyone making that statement provide evidence support such a claim? Maybe the violence is caused by people that were spanked as children.
I have seen no evidence to show that.
PS... to make your "statement" appear somewhat more intelligent please learn how to use spell check. Thank You.
Hope there isn't fallout from Russian adoption problem. But are kids with serious behavioral problems an isolated story?
Children have different levels of aggression naturally and we need to understand that. Every baby that is born his own natural level of aggression and often that behavior has to be controlled . If it is not then those with what I call high "testosterone" levels of behavior go unchecked. And that can lead to negative behaviors because it has not been corrected. I spanked my son on occasion because he was a very aggressive child and he was a risk taker. Spanking was always done as the last measure and only after he was told numerous times not to do something. I did not have to spank my daughter because she corrected her behavior when I told her to do so. They both have the same biological parents. I have witnessed children who grew up without being disciplined for bad behavior who do not know right from wrong. I think spanking is Ok for some children timeout does not work for everyone.
Should Americans spank or should we not ??
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Negative effects of spanking-
-Spanking was associated with:
Decreased internalization of morals
Diminished quality of parent-child relationship
Poorer adult and child mental health
Increased delinquency and antisocial behavior for children
Increased delinquency and antisocial behavior for adults
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Parents Need to realize!!! :
Recent meta-analysis of 88 corporal punishment studies (Gershoff, 2002)
Found one positive outcome related to use of corporal punishment:
Immediate compliance by the child but behavior change is only temporaily.
Parents understand this your child will only abide by obedience short term but the behavior will still continue .Using spanking can be okay if you tell your child WHY ? You are going to spank them ! why our you punishing them. Talking to them in a serious tone .However not demeaning and emotionally distrubed voice. Then your child will more likely comply to you . If you just explain to them why your punishing me them in the first place. If you never do this for your child ,they will never understand the boundaries or misbehavior they acted on. Remember childrens brains our still developing . They our not fully developed yet . They conceptually can't understand why you hit them in the first place.Unless if you tell them and talk to them about why you our going to Spank them. If you don't it's just going to reinforce the behavior again in the long run.
In some states like California, spanking is illegal. Eventually it will be in all states as we realize that our job is to raise our children as human beings and not as property. It is unfortunate that it takes criminalization to get parents to research and experiment with other, more successful options. It isn't about you, the government, or God, it is about human rights, and being smaller or having a brain that is still developing makes them no less of a human. It isn't even about spanking or swatting itself always being active abuse, but rather it is neglect to what the child really needs, which is the advancement of their growth and development specified to the level they are at.
There's nothing wrong with spanking. It's just a tool that must be used properly to be effective. Spanking is nothing more than a means to let a child know that his/her behavior is unacceptable; just as a hug and a kiss let the child know that you are pleased with the behavior. The problems come in when we forget this and spank simply because we are angry. And of course no type of punishment will work if it makes the child think they are a bad person. Only the behavior is bad.
@Jenny
You wrote ...
"For me it is sad that we have to discussion about this 2010.... to spank or not to spank children. In Sweden (where I am from) it is against the law since 1979. Do you spank other adults too to make them listen or respect you?!! Respect your children and they will respect you."
The answer is yes. When adults misbehave, we call the people who have authority over adult behavior in much the same way parents are supposed to have authority over children's behavior. These people are called the police. And they "spank" with nightsticks, tasers and guns. People MUST be made to adhere to the rules. This is the organizing principle of any society.
Does this study control for consistency? That is the key to parenting. you have to punish and reward everytime. Not just when you feel like it. I spanked my children when they were toddlers and they did not need to be spanked by the time they were 3. They had learned that mom meant business and all I had to do was correct and redirect after that.
if students were getting paddled for bullying some lives would have been save i wonder about the children who was the reason that the recent kids commited suicide parents spanked them are put them in time out also previous punishments prior to that were they spanked all their life or put in time out
Catherine Taylor must be a product of the timeout generation.
I hope Russia boycots America with odoptions we have plenty of children here in America that needs homes those people who adopt out of country deserves what they get .
Paul... you are delusional. Simple as.
You need to learn what the "health care reform" really is. Biased and racially motivated. Will cost the loss of more jobs, raise insurance premiums, raise taxes and increase profits for insurance which will cause the politicians to gain more kickbacks.
Obama has TRIPLED the national debt with more to come.
And only attempting to REDUCE nuclear weapons. It's not a done deal yet.
i remeber going to school and every student was scare of getting paddled so pro timeouters protest that you take the paddles out the schools and the kids bring in the guns
Sarah Palin... Why are we still giving her legitamitcy? She quit her job a year and a half into her term because of "family" if she was elected to Pres. , would she quit that too? She had a family before she run for office! Wasn't an issue then! Besides she's a moron! If I lived in Alaska I'd be embarrassed to admit that I breathed the same air as her! She's nothing more than a spreader of Hate and a wanna be smart person. She has along way to go on the later!
ASAF – you are being ridiculously simplistic. And acting like Donna's kids will end up in prison is way over the line. Whenever they discuss these studies they way oversimplify as if a little smack on the butt occasionally is the same as a whooping. Remember it was FREQUENT spanking at THREE YEARS OLD. That may be too subtle for people who are inclined to see things as all black and white and as their parenting strategy as being the only correct one.
Mr. Marciano,
Spanking is nothing to lampoon about.
It is child abuse.
It is domestic violence.
Would you joke about battered women?
You are insensitive at best.
T know for a fact that when I got a spanking it made me think twice before I did the wrong thing again Dr. Taylor needs to have children of her own before she gives advice .
I have 3 teenage boys and when they were five we made them run when they misbehaved badly this not only worked out there bad behavior but tired them out so they were no longer feeling the need to act out . But sometimes a child needs a spanking . Todays kids feel they are no consequences for actions because of studies from people who probaly have no kids say punishment is bad. While there are parents who are too extreme most are good and use spanking wisely . Try following groups of kids who have never had punishment as well so they can see the effects no punishments has on kids as well . May change their minds some.
I'm not stating that spanking does not have some negative side effects, but I feel that this is such a SMALL percentage of children, that in a larger controlled group, this "aggressive behavior" that was stated would be much smaller. It's also worth noting that she did not notice that these were CHILDREN. I know how that sounds but honestly! These aren't dogs or mice that are subject to controlled experiments. Even if a child was not spanked, there is still a fair amount of chance factored into a child's behavior. I know that close family that I had that were spanked all turned out to be very honorable individuals. Meanwhile, I have close younger family (sisters, brothers, cousins, etc.) that all are openly defiant and actually been given referals and disciplinary actions taken towards them.
Saying that spanking creates bad behavior is like saying prisons create crime. Well behaved kids don't get spanked, so it stands to reason kids that ARE spanked might have issues.
I was a child that time outs did not work. I laughed at them. My brother, however, was a great kid and all the "Dr. Spock" ideas worked. I don't think he as ever been spanked in his life.
For me, however, I was on the road to disttruction, lying constantly, always in trouble, criminal even. At around 12, my mom caught me breaking into the school and she had had enough. She blistered my hide. From that DAY, my life changed. I quit lying, became and A student, went on to college, got a fantastic job traveling the world, and to this day (I am not 47), I have never EVER laid a hand on another human being. As for my Mom, to this day she cries if this incident is mentioned, even though every time, I thank her for it.
These folks are interpretting results for an agenda, and they are not only wrong, they are dangerous. There are kids that REQUIRE pain therapy. And this isn't a theory to me. It's a fact. I shudder to think what would have happened if these folks had been allowed to "help" me.
Spanking causes aggressive behavior? Give me a break. Have you witnessed the behavior of these kids whose parents "reason" with them? Makes you wonder who's raising who. Trust me a couple of good spankings and all you'll have to do in the future is give your kid the "look". I'm no PHD but I've raised a child who is now a successful, respectful, morally sound individual. I tapped her legs a time or two but after that all she needed was "that look" to pull it together.
To spank or not to spank, I was spanked along with my brother ever since I can remember and now I have boys they get some of the same, although not for some time now. I believe that both of us have grown to be upstanding citizens and have even served for our country. You might not believe in this but people have to realize there's a consequence to one's actions. All to often parents wait too long to deal out some sort of punishment and after a length of time the kids are going to forget and wonder why they are being punished or for what. The time outs I do not believe in as it just puts kids in an area where all they have to do is wait or out wait a parent and they are off to wreak havok once again, because there was not a consequence to ones action and since it didn't effect them most just go off and do it again possibly not to get caught; a gamble or calculated risk? I believe that this effects people later in life and often lead to the same problems which could lead to prison sentences. We have too many people in prison that get their 'time out' and get back out on the streets only to do the same; there is not a consequence to their action(s); they get room, board, and everything else a prison might offer that some people out on the streets don't even get.
I think that maybe a study needs to be done to see what type of punishment prisoners got, let's see the other side of this. Other than that I think that possibly after the child gets older by the age of five the parents haven't followed up on what they were trying to reinforce early on.
BTW, both my boys are very good, in scouting, and my oldest even tutors after school for a younger boy and both have had spankings to 'adjust bad behaviour."
I was discaplined by both spanking and time out as a child. Spanking did not make me more agressive in fact it had the opposite affect. Time out was more like jail, I spent more time Trying to figure out how to get out of it then thinking about why I was there. For the debate I believe that punishment should be equal to the crime.
Good morning I think you are going on about the 50% chance that jf you spank your child they will be agressive. But you have not said one word about the other 50% that they won't be agressive. I think you are making a big deal about just part of the study. Maybe I am crazy but I think that is wrong. Why don't you talk about the other 50% as well.
Thank you
Tonya
For me it is sad that we have to discussion about this 2010.... to spank or not to spank children. In Sweden (where I am from) it is against the law since 1979. Do you spank other adults too to make them listen or respect you?!! Respect your children and they will respect you.
@ melon, then I will admit to being wrong about the # of people studied...2500 is not really alot of people concidering how many people live in America....And my name is Ralph not Ralphy...ok?
American youths are becoming weak and disrespectful because of this in tolerable movement toward "better practises" of correction. The fear used to keep parents from correcting there children is weakening American youth. Wake up people our children are doing things that we would have never thought about doing!
Wanna seriously damage your child? Make them study the bible.
To spank or not to spank??? I love the fact that we think we are smarter than history. It's been done a certain way forever and yes it wasn't always the best method but it worked. Less crime more respectful children.
Kids today have a lack of respect and feel entitled; this is crazy due to the fact that the parent is 100% legally responsible. Entitlement comes when they pay their way.
given a choice to be spanked or to be put in time out which would you choose any child would pic that cause it's easy and lacks dicipline.
It's very easy to say that spanking is wrong. Nobody wants to spank their children. When I was a first time parent, I was absolutely sure that I would not ever spank my child. Let's not forget that every child is different. My first child was confrontational from the time she was two. Bedtime became the battle of the wills. We would read, tuck her in and all the things the experts say to do however she would not stay in bed. Timeouts became a two to five minute battle to just keep her in her room. Sometimes she required a swat on the butt. Our second child (same parents) went to bed when he was tired, I'd have to tell him to that he could come out of his room when his timeout was up and just a stern "no" was sufficient to stop him from what he was doing that was unacceptable when he was little. Like I said, nobody starts out wanting to spank their children and nobody likes it. I still think that she needed that swat to stop the behavior. I wished I hadn't needed to and I would always explain that to her the next day. Neither of my children became bullies and they're both good parents now.
Ann
Unfortunately, the spanking study co-author Catherine Taylor DID NOT answer Kiran's question as to the definition of spanking nor John's subsequent iteration of that query. Further, she failed to address such factors as the number and severity of the swats to the bottom or the parent's attitude (whether in love or anger) at the time of the spanking. Until she and the other Tulane researchers do, her findings are at best questionable.
why aren't the republicans mentioning the historic accomplishments that Obama has made... health reform, ridding nukes, and reducing the deficeit by $300b?
Asaf, what's so wrong with going back to the 1920's? I wish kids were as good now as they were back in the twenties. It seems that during these times that more "experts" have conducted more studies on how we should raise our children, our kids have become worse.
Hi!
I think it's not the spanking that triggers aggressive behaviour. I mean there are cases, when we should dig deeper. It's been proved that the cause of aggressiveness and tantrums is in human genes. I've read about these cases. Fortunately if doctors manage to track this malign genes at the very beginning, or even before the child is born, the chances are pretty high that the child won't be exposed to agressive behaviour. Bu now they haven't managed to find any effective remedy which can once and forever heal the sick, but I've heard that the research is carried on.
Spanking is like cursing – usually done out of either habit or ignorance. Either may result in long term negative consequences when directed at a child.
I never spanked my three children (now adults), refusing to cause them to the humiliation and pain I was subjected to on a regular basis for such crimes as refusing to eat my peas or make my bed.
Spanking causes aggressive behavior? Give me a break. Have you witnessed the behavior of these kids whose parents "reason" with them? Makes you wonder who's raising who. Trust me a couple of good spankings and all you'll have to do in the future is give you kid the "look". I'm no PHD but I've raised a child who is now a successful, respectful, morally sound individual.
That was some report really, she took all this time to say how bad it was to spank but she has no alternative to it. the reality of this' simple, most people have been spanked in their lives and they're not violent in this case, their experience is a better teacher than whatever anyone else says.
Thomas, Tampa, FL
Are they kidding? Maybe they are too young to remember the
illustrious Dr. Spock, who apologized before he died for the
generations of kids who were raised on his "No Spank Policy",
resulting in countless obnoxious brats around around the world!
Hello, McFly!
Good morning, I am a 60-year old retired school teacher, administrator and university professor. In my early years in education, corporal punishment was a common practice. I, as a teacher and administrator, witnessed and administered corporal punishment many times. Over the years, my understandings of effective practices with students evolved and I became ashamed of my earlier practices in such situations. Research has shown there many more effective techniques to address such concerns. Just my thoughts. Thanks.
When we look out on the streets now and see the young kids that the parants did not spank, in fact the parants are afraid of then and that child is not afraid of anyone (cop's) our jails are full of kids that was not spanked!!
April 13th, 2010 8:01 am ET
On spanking - How can anyone say that the spanking causes aggressive behavior when they didn't know the behavior of the child prior to the spanking. Appears to be a study looking for a certain outcome to me.
I agree with you, they only asked questions and never followed the family around. I am still wondering if this woman has any children and how she corrects bad behavior.
She really needs to get a life. These are my children and i will correct bad behavior the way i see fit. And if they need a couple swats on the butt then that is what they are going to get.
My children are not aggressive nor act out in any way. They are very loving kids. They are respectful of any adults they come in contact with. They are not in trouble with the law, there are no social workers in my business.
Wondering what this woman would have to say about that. I spanked my kids when they were younger and that proves her study wrong
People....I thought we were talking about kids and not adults? Give me a break please.....An adult should know better than to be disrespect to others...at ANY time... If taught correctly, a child can learn to be a model human being. It is really the parents choice of how they teach thier kids this point.
Spanking... We have an entire generation that is screwed due to lack of disipline. Re. Donna's comment. They have no respect or morals.Bible says, spare the rod, spoil the child. It also says to teach your children and they will carry those teachings through life. Ever try placing a hyper child in time out, without a slap on the behind to get their attention? 50%... sounds like an inconclusive report, waste of Money and Time!!!
interesting study, it makes sense that continuous spanking will shape the childs development, unfortunately, the spanking usually occurs in the heat of the moment following the misbehaviour. If the parent were able to standback and take a 30-60 sec. timeout, I'm sure many parents would re-think the spanking.
( father of 2 grown boys)
Tom, Canada
Here are some stats for you. When I was a child spanking was common and widespread. Process this stat ... how many of our generation shot and killed one another ... smoked crack .... or became teenage mothers and fathers ... or dropped out of school. And what percentage of the more recent generations have fallen into these holes. How long will it take ... how many broken children ... before this current wave of ineffective parenting is stopped and our children ... and our nation ... can be saved?
Your guest can't see the forest for the trees. Here's a word she never used in her entire dissertation ... FATHERS.
This woman is simply trying to promote a book. Doing what she says is tantamount to giving your child a couple of 12 packs and handing them the car keys.
Here is a quote for you ...
A happy childhood has spoiled many a promising life. - Robertson Davies -
... this is not to say that a parent should strive to KEEP their children unhappy, but that a parent's primary goal should not be keeping their kids happy over and above raising them correctly.
Spanking - boils down to good parenting...
The counter argument is that the researchers didn't disclose the correlation or possibility of confounding variables of spanking children vs. later aggression. One could say misbehaving children leads to adults who misbehave.
What about the study of new techniques / "therapy" that have been introduced to counter spanking vs. later behavior.
After I got spanked once for being out of order for doing something as a child, you can guarantee I didn't do it again. But if we talk about it, all I can think of is what the adults sounded like in Snoopy – nonsensical "mwa mwa mwa mwa"
In all of our lives, pain is a teacher that teaches lessons we do not forget. What the study does attempt to identify is the combination of safety and security in the home evenly handed corporal punishments. A reason hitting a child doesn't work is goal is not behavioral transformation, often the goal is to stop the event. If corporal punishment is used in it proper guidelines, it will provide boundaries that nothing else does.
Just like when we get a speeding ticket, it has a lasting effect, because it hurts. 😉
@donna. Your post shows bad parenting. I never spanked my son. He is now working on his PhD in Engineering and is a decent human being. There are other forms of stopping bad behavior. Hitting is not one of them. The home should be the safest place in the world for a child, not the most dangerous!
An excellent way to learn alternatives to spanking would be to take a class such as "Introduction Behavior Modification" (PSY220) offered by the Virginia Community College System or a similar class by a parenting organization.
Hi Guys
You have got to be kidding me.....This s a study that you want me to take for real? They asked moms about spanking and that was it? I have had four children and I spanked them all. I might have laid my hands on them three times in thier lives but they knew I would if I had to. It comes down to be consistant with your punishment. Never say what you would not do..ex...I'll know your teeth out..but if you say they are grounded for 6 months..stick with it. Children at 2 do not understand much, if they are going to touch a hot stove and you said "hot" "don't touch"..you might as well say "apple". They just don't know enought of the language to understand. But if you tap thier hand and say no hot...they get the tap and next time they will not go by the stove, they remember the tap, not the word..Common sense goes a long way. By the way, my oldest is 32 and my youngest 22 and all have gone through University and no bullies.
Dr. Taylor's research.supports the work of Albert Bandura in the 60s where he found that children learn thru observation of models. Thus, these children acquire aggressive behavior by watching others. The results also support the long time work of Erik Erikson re: the fact that in his first stage of development children go thru a trust vs. mistrust stage. So, then children very early on learn to mistrust their environment when they are exposed to aggressive parents, e.g., via spanking.
Hey CNN, where is the news this morning? You are acting just like the *networks* and trying to entertain rather than inform. Please get back on track or it will force us to watch CSPAN!
While there may be a causal relationship between spanking and violence in children, I'm curious about the validity of this study. Concurrent issues such as familial violence, exposure to violence in media, and other environmental factors may also have a large impact. It's probably not a very accurate picture to extrapolate one behavior (spanking) from the entire tableau of activities around child rearing.
Spanking? really? are we welcoming back the 1920s?
I just can't believe it. Jail houses are full with kids who were spanked. including yours, Donna.
ever since they took away disciplinary action from the public schools ...chewing gum, disrespect, talk back, threats, hitting, stabbing and murder against teachers started.
I spanked my kids when they were young and my wife wondered why they were more attached to me than to her. They know that I cared about them and did so in a loving way.
The bible says 'do not hold back the rod of discipline' .
I'm not talking about 'leaving marks' making a kid suffer...I'm talking about being firm.
I have seen those parents that 'do not hit' their kids and verbally discipline have kids that are BRATS... of course it depends on the kids personality.
My parents 'hit me' and I have been told to be a very caring and loving person.
You portrayed the study as demonstrating that spanking was all bad. Remember, it was FREQUENT spanking at 3 YEARS OLD. If you are spanking frequently, especially at only 3, that should indicate some bad parenting. I spanked one child a few times a year and one not at all. The one who was OCCASIONALLY spanked has no aggression issues at all. Its too simplistic to say all spanking is the same. It can be an effective tool for some children when used properly.
Where do these studies come from? How long was the study? how many were studied? Seems to me that eventually parents will be blamed for the "woes of the world". Mayb we could teach them to be lying,cheating overbearing adults who have careers in politics!!!
@emily when spanking becomes illegal. I will stop spanking my girls..LOL!
I believe children in general have become more aggressive through the years, but this can be attributed more so to a general degradation of values and behavior in society than to spanking. Our grandparents probably took more derriere swats than any of the kids nowadays, but yet most people would agree that they were less violent and more respectful than today's kids.
why does this woman think she knows more than GOD when it comes to parenting "spare the rod, spoil the child" -I'll stick with the wisdom of almighty GOD over her crappy advice!
Perhaps they should do a survey of how many prisoners have been spanked and who many have not as child...It is the parents consistency
of action that is the best corrective measure.
Just curious, is Doctor Taylor a mother or is her opinions just based on her research?
So what this so call study is saying is "we know more then God" The devil is a lie. I have no interset in been my childs best friend. I believe in spankiong but I hate abuse.
What a load of PC drivel. Discipline your kids and be a parent- stop trying to be their best friend.
@ Ralphy ... actually the number was 2500.
Your comment could explain alot of your "thinking".
Cathren Taylor evedently has no children this woman is one of the cause's to most out of control children in this nation .
On spanking -- How can anyone say that the spanking causes aggressive behavior when they didn't know the behavior of the child prior to the spanking. Appears to be a study looking for a certain outcome to me.
Spanking not good. Kids want to do good things and any behavior can be corrected. I know this sounds silly but look @ the work Caesar millon does with dogs. I have never seen him spank a dog, have u?
Spank away people! America can always manipulate the low self esteemed employee!
this woman need to be spanked for comming on telling this crap. Look what these children are doing today. thats because the parent want to be a friend instead of a parent. I am a parent and I love my child, I nurture my child. I fill her with love and eisdom. If my child did wrond yes i would spank her. and she would not do it again.
What about the 50% that did not have problems. Did the spanking help them?
After listening to Catherine Taylor this morning. I want to spank her. What a load of psycho babble.