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Scientists say second oil plume lurking underwater
(CNN) – As if the pictures of birds, fish and animals killed by floating oil in the Gulf of Mexico is not disturbing enough, scientists now say they have found evidence of another danger lurking underwater.
The University of South Florida recently discovered a second oil plume in the northeastern gulf. The first plume was found by Mississippi universities in early May.
USF has concluded microscopic oil droplets are forming deep water oil plumes. After a weeklong analysis of water samples, USF scientists found more oil in deeper water.
"These hydrocarbons are from depth and not associated with sinking degraded oil but associated with the source of the Deep Horizon well head," said USF Chemical Oceanographer David Hollander.
Through isotopic or microscopic fingerprinting, Hollander and his USF crew were able to show the oil in the plume came from BP's blown out oil well. The surface oil's so-called fingerprint matched the tiny underwater droplet's fingerprint. Read more
Program note: It's an interview you don't want to miss this morning: She's a bona fide engineering prodigy. Her name is Alia Sabur and she started her doctorate at 14-years-old, even reading before she could walk! She's accomplished everything she said she would and quicker than anyone thought. She says she can fix this oil leak in the Gulf, so is BP listening to her?
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after all replacing the valve is the most obvious way to stop the flow instead of all thease domes funneld and the like
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I was wondering why no one has thought of removing the damaged BOP and replacing it with a new one .After all i do belive its a matter of unbolting and reattching the new valve . After all the well head was assembled under water at that depth ,whay cant it be taken apart also
South Carolina Democratic Senate Primary;
Does no one see that the real problem with this story is that a citizen needs $10,000 of their own money as a filing fee. Mr. Smith could never have gotten to Washington under those rules to favor that only the rich elitist can join the Senate "Club". Why is it not that you just need 10,000 signatures on a petition instead of dollars in order to run?
Kiran you consider yoursefl such a bleeding heart type how did you miss this take. It is because you concentrated so much on this being a Republican trick (obvioulsy not your party of choice) that you were blinded to the truth. Which is you are nothing short of another elitist hiding in sheeps clothing as a liberal. Have you ever followed your own "faked" agenda. Have you ever given till it hurts or just enough in public and that it doesn't keep you from your next Latte. I am sure you will not read this full post and instead somehow spin the populist view expressed above to your own benefit.
Put Orange Beach, Alabama Mayor Tony Kennon in charge. He seems to have the will to do it and a sense of urgency apparently lacking in BP officials and/or other government entities, including the President (for whom I voted, but he needs to "kick his own ass" too.)
Pay attention Pauly ~~ hydralic fluid would be pumped into them. Shoot, give her a chance. BP sure isn't doing anything.
Pauly June 7th, 2010 7:13 am ET
How would you inflate tires or anything else against the extreme pressure of all that oil & natural gas gushing from the riser?
More on how you can help in the Gulf: http://www.cnn.com/impact.
i fell if someone asks someone a question, you should tell what you feel. helen thomas, was only doing what they asked her and being honest, if the truth hurts. then you get scorned on. good for you helen. shirley fla.
CNN – You didn't post my last comments and I understand why but it's food for thought a good investigative reporter may want to look into.
No Ari, it's not the same. Americans of African descent were forcibly brought here as slaves, unless of course you live in Texas. The European Jews were given a choice of where they'd like to relocate/settle after WWII, Uganda or Palestine. Imagine if they'd chose Uganda. And let us not forget Judaism is a religion, not a people.
CNN. Could the Federal government require other oil companys such as Exon to get involved with the cleanup effort of the oil leak in the golf?
CNN. What is you opinion about if it is possible for other oil companys in the Golf to help in the effort to clean up the oil spill and cap the leak. Being that all oil companys have an interest in the golf, I think it would be good if they can work something out with BP to assist them with their efforts.
Helen's remarks were Right On! Why is it when someone criticizes Israel, they're labeled an anti-Semite. Why is the security and right to defend a right just for Israel. You Go Girl!
We need to remember how we go into this mess, before we bash President Obama. Years of de-regulation and pro- oil industry legislation allowed the oil companies to cut corners and gamble with the safety of the Gulf and the people who live there. This disaster is the result of capitalism allowed to regulate itself. We are paying for our own short sightedness.
Last month showed a huge increase in jobs created – all census workers. June will also show a huge job increase – oil cleanup. Where's the steady career jobs. Come on greedy millionaires. It's better to give than receive and you can't take it with you when you die. Remember it's your employees who helped you get where you are and can get you even further. Hire now!! Pay them well and they will bend over backwards to do a good job.
@ Sydnee The oil company's are suppose to fill thje oil cavity with sea water to prevent a collapse but who's watching them to make sure they do it .
She was not speaking the truth at all..
All she did was reveal her true colors of hatred...and utter stupidity.
randall- I never did get Texas humor. I suspect it's more of an oxymoron. 🙂
MeLoN- Have you forgotten how we ran the McCain/Palin campaign out of this state? Of course we want him here. 🙂
Helen Thomas and the freedom of speech her words may hurt some peoples ears but she speaks the truth but the truth is not allowed in America .
Yesterday CNN and Suzann M. did a segment about the mosque, if you watch the interview you will clear see that it is Typical use of placement by the news along with government bodies, those that they support will have the last word. Also this became more of a commercial for Islam. CNN allowed this man to discredit Pam, without a chance to defend herself.
CNN the Former trusted name in news..
The United States will be under attack by Islam until the war ends and the war is already over a thousand years of bloodshed and only a fool would not profile there enemy and allowing a Muslim church next to ground zero is a disgrace to America .
Michael – I thought the same thing about removing the nex nuts and replacing the flange to seal it off but that's too obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if this whole thing is purposely being delayed to push clean energy which BP is also investing in.
The Governors of the Gulf states are pushing the notion that their beaches are safe & Americans should come on down & spend their money. Since relief workers have been getting ill, why would anyone take their families to the Gulf? No one knows what or how many toxins are in the water from the oil & dispersant. One can see the oil but the toxins are so noticeable until after you become ill!!! Which could be years after you come into contact w/ them!!!
The facts are sad but the Louisiana fishers are all out of work now and have no other choice but to relocate to survive there fishing industry is dead in the water for maybe 100 years .
Gaza and the West Bank should never have been given to the Palestinians. That entire region was promised to the Jews by God. There will be a growing hatred of the Jews and the Muslim nations will unite with Russia to come against Isreal led by the Antichrist but God will put a stop to that. We are quickly getting to that point. For those who doubt, wouldn't it be better to be safe than sorry for all eternity? Get right with God today as you never know what tomorrow will bring.
This may be a dumb question, but what is happening under the sea bed where all the oil is coming from? What fills the space the oil comes from?
B.P. researched years ago on how to screw people after an oil event but put no effort on how to fix a problem such as this one .
Knowledge and truth appears to scare some.
Fear of knowledge is a tragic.
Brings back memories of older themes like,
RIF: Reading is Fundamental.
A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Much like drinking the kool-aid offered by those in Washington.
I hear that the old commercial showing a fired egg and the words, this is your brain on drugs, is about to make a come back,, only t his time dc-kool-aid
Helen Thomas' senility may explain her lack of inhibition in spueing her venomous ideas. It is quite clear that she has always been an anti-Semite, and an ignorant one. What an asinine idea to call on the Jews of Israel to "return" to where they came from. Doesn't she know history? Where the Jews came from is Israel.
it was a joke Art...lol...she only talks of the winners and the gloating over robber Barons..
Obama .. PLEASE don't come to the Great State of Michigan. We don't want or need YOU here. Go some place else.
Forgive Helen Thomas it will teach all of us a lesson...
John Roberts let me tell you about a little book God wrote first called the Book of Nature...lol..right John ol' boy...still with me?...lol ok well in the Book of Nature all polluting Airplanes are viewed as Terrorists...how you like those Apples..lol
The Horizon sight should have bean seized by our federal government and all its assets should be in our hands with an American controlling all operations with B.P. only giving suggestions .
I saw a TV show recently called " the age of stupid". I believe we really live in the age of stupid. Nuclear bomb to cap well. LOL.As if the leak wasn't bad enough now we want to radiate the gulf!! Shrimp that glow in the dark. Mmm. The world faces many, many problems and it is the manner in which we confront these challenges that will determine if we as humans will survive or go the way of the dinosaur's.
The drill baby drill crowd was all for offshore drilling. All you have to do is listen to clips from McCain, Palin, Romney, Giuliani, et al. They all distinctly called for offhore drilling when calling for drill baby drill. Ten days prior to this leak, Palin was in New Orleans saying the time for research & studies was over & it's time to drill baby drill in the Gulf & on the eastern seaboard.
I've worked on off-shore oil rigs, I've scuba-dived in the Gulf; the two can work together, and have for years.
The problems begin when wha happens..."IF."
No one thought of 'what if' before allowing the fouling of our fishing industry.
Shame on 'regulators' who allowed big oil to flounder a mile beneath the surface of the earth without a clue as to what to do...."IF" something goes wrong, and it has, thereby killing the pristine marsh land and sea life on our Gulf Coast shores.
btw: Hire the unemployed to clean the beaches, force BP to hire local fishermen to help clean the waters.
That ain't all, but it's a start.
randall- I'm sorry I missed her reporting on these issues. I respect her work.
President Obama will be in our neck of the woods today. My wish is that he will instill the desire for an authentic clean energy policy in this country when he speaks with these students in, Kalamazoo. The "Greatest Generation", and the 'Baby Boomers' have just about throttled their generation's potentiality with their self-indulgent, unconscious choices of the last 50 years. May his words spark their creative genius when tackling the challenges we've amassed for them, and a willingness to nurture a discerning eye with regard to the interdependence of all life on this planet.
1) – Simplest Fix – Replace old flange and attached broken (now snipped) pipe at top of BOP – has " hex nuts" – with new flange and associated pipe to surface.
Unscrewing "hex nuts" and replacing with new outer flange should make non leaking connection to surface collection.
Once again do not use dispersants into leaking oil so can be collected by tankers at at surface – where are they ?
This could have been done after the smoke cleared (day 2) and this disaster avoided ...
p.s. It is unfathomable how this was not done.
The cap is nothing but a lie B.P. could not recover the oil for a profit thats why they cut the pipe the leak is worst now then before I live in Texas and watched a convoy of oil rigging trucks 2 miles long heading for the Texas gulf coast yesterday any one with common since knows there getting ready for a bigger and wider spread oil slick .
Sure .. every oil rig should have a "relief well" but then be prepared to pay at the pump to cover the extra expense. What SHOULD happen is the US should ween it's self off of oil ASAP to help avoid another disaster. And there shouldn't be corrupt politicians sucking up money from big oil.
CNN is after Helen Thomas for speaking the truth. CNN is the mouth piece for Israel and cares little for justice due an opposed people.
Alia Sabur
Why is it that every tv station and newspaper describes her as a s a colege professor with a Mensa membership, but none of them give basic details about her lfe.
Where did she study? Where is she a professor?
Wouldn't the pr people at these institutions be putting this out? Why does no reporter get this basic information out???
I'm not for off shore drilling in any manner unless the depth is where we are able to physically place hands upon the working parts.
The drill baby drill group is or was actually in protest of drilling off shore, rather drill inland. It is a debate.
As far as the words of Helen Thomas, resign, no Public humiliation Fire her!
B.P. is interested in marketing oil and if they kill the well then then so does any profit for that well it's just like giving a bank robber the key's to fort Knox this well will not be killed until the new well has bean drilled to continue there profit they want to make sure that when the B.O.P. is recovered that B.P. is the one that recovers it if our government was worth a damd they would make sure that B.P. stays away from the evidence after they pull the B.O.P. from the sea .
Oh Shut Up you over educated philosopical Parrots...I have had my gut fill of you manicured over civilized jerks debating our issues and then yanking that credit card out and traveling on...
Have the SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND take over control of all the Electricity Companies like Dominion Resources and all the rest and then there'd be low interset loans available for students..All the lights that burn overnight at the downtown city business buildings to go in the Social Pool for the coal miners and families and the nurses aide's families and the children with Autism. Sid and Perry Bass and Richard Rainwater don't need the money.
Godfrey Daniels guys we ain't #1 anymore...we are about #3 and I kind of like it..
I bet everyone of you guys kids were or will be born naked...so you ain't all that advanced...!!!...lol..lol
For years people have warned of the possible devastation that would be caused by offshore drilliing. They were called greenies, tree huggers & fearmongers by the drill baby drill crowd. After the '09 spill off the Australian coast, the drill baby drill crowd said it couldn't happen here. They conveniently forgot about the Ixtoc 1 spill that happened in the Gulf in '79.
Even now the drill baby drill crowd is speaking out against the moratorium. They point to the economic benefits of offshore drilling, With the economic & environmental damage being done by the BP spill, how can they point to any economic advantage? Especially when it hasd been proven again that the oil industry can't stop the damage for months.
Since relief wells are the only answer to such leaks, why not require relief wells for every rig be built & on standby? Because it would be too costly for the oil co's? What about how costly a leak is to other industries & wildlife? The full extent of the damage caused by this leak won't be known for years, if not decades. And this leak would look like a drip if a similar event occured on BP's Atlantis rig or a number of others.
Randy, attacks on me will not gain you any ground, wise people will tell you to focus on the topic not the person.. End here the lesson. 😀
"Don't ask what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country" JFK.
A polite way of saying, get up off your butts, work and strive for a better life, your government is not your care taker or care giver.
I've seen lots of photos of oil on the surface but I'd like to see underwater photos just below the surface to see how far below the surface the water the oil goes. I'd also like to see water tests from various depths below the surface from various distances away from the rig up to the shore to see how much fish could be affected.
The Conservated CNN censors 😀
.............read "Liars For Jesus" by Chris Rodda...
Art...Christine Roman's talks about those issues when she talks about the wealthy in her Wall Street reports...
Hey, those in charge of getting the word out are so soaked in their high incomes that they are joined at the wallet with corruption...
Heavy oil doesn't "rise to the top". It sits on the bottom.
BP will need all the Profit they can get if the American people make them pay for the true cost of this tragedy. Till now little effort has gone in to showing how this could have been avoided and if it could have happened to just about any oil company. Cause there are many more wells out there. Who knows what other seemingly regular process or systems functioning out there that could pose such huge environmental risks if something where to go wrong.
I think a detailed environmental risk assesment needs to be done world over cause thing do go wrong!
Excellent show this morning. More funds need to be spent in autistism research. It has come far but this "marker" mentioned is so important. The earlier the better. Will be following this story.
I've been watching gushing oil for more than a month and everything around the plume looks crystal clear which makes me wonder how much fish will really be affected as it seems all the oil rises to the top.
Hi Kiran and John,
Why can't someone at BP think clearly and shut off the oil flow by simply kinking or pinching the damaged riser pipe? Even a 5-year-old knows how to stop the flow in a garden hose – you simply bend it.
They obviously have the capability and equipment to do so if they could shear off a 22-inch diameter pipe a mile down. Shearing off the pipe completely was obviously the worst choice as we can now all witness.
Bob Szeker, P.Eng, Ottawa, ON
The US should develop more "bullet" trains and get away from air travel when it isn't absolutely necessary. Trains are safer, cheaper way to travel.
Like I said CNN censors, I posted a second time with credible links that have reports , graphs, charts etc.
As a freelance American Reporter, doing what we are suppose to do, CNN must fear an Honest Reporter. insert sound bite, ( LAUGHTER)
Do your homework my fellow Americans and those aboard who wish to know the truth.
Well, it's never too early to start saving the world, Alia Sabur. Looks like BP may now have a way to plug the leak and save its well. Maybe the White House's decision to leave the Coast Guard in charge payed off after all. How soon before BP can give this one a try?
How would you inflate tires or anything else against the extreme pressure of all that oil & natural gas gushing from the riser?
Does any realize that we are smack In the middle of hurricane season??? I dont know if anyone at BP has thougt about that and what will happen but If yall think we have a disaster now just wait till we get a big one In the gulf...hmmm food for thought!
I have yet to hear someone from Louisiana mention the plight of those in Appalachia. The "technique" of mountaintop removal to mine coal is every bit as devastating to their communities as the broken oil well in the Gulf. What about the uranium mining in the Black Hills of South Dakota for nuclear energy? The abandoned mines which were never capped are spewing uranium dust into indigenous American communities, and wreaking havoc with their health. The water runoff from these mines are poisoning underground water sources, and rivers in these communities. No one is talking about that, either.
As long as we are unwilling to speak out on these issues, or write our elected representatives in Washington, the monied interests will continue to take the path of least resistance to conduct "bidness" in this country. Unfortunately, we the people are the path of least resistance because of our apathy.
I don't doubt Miss Sabur's credentials. However, there are engineers, scientists & others working on the leak who have been in their professsions longer than she has been alive. I'm sure they have looked at an inflatable plug as the answer & decided it wouldn't work.
People think because the anti-American pro illegal alien forces are the loudest and most vocal that they are the MAJORITY – which simply isn't the truth. 3/4 of Americans want the illegal aliens stopped and the majority of Americans support the Arizona law and wish more states had the same law.
Since you were quick to point out a harmless kiss by Sandra, why not also point out she said "WE should all say a prayer for those in the Gulf"
CNN=bias unprofessional news reporting.
Not to mention they no longer do investigative reporting, like the money trail in regards to the spill and how since November the company making the dispersants used received Federal money along with big players buying stock, like Buffet. the list is long and eye opening.
NALCO is based in Chicago with subsidiaries in Brazil, Russia, India, China and Indonesia.
NALCO is associated with UChicago Argonne program. UChicago Argonne received $164 million dollars in stimulus funds this past year. UChicago Argonne just added two new executives to their roster. One from NALCO. The other from the Ill. Dept of Educaution.
If you dig a little deeper you will find NALCO is also associated with Warren Buffett, Maurice Strong, Al Gore, Soros, Apollo, Blackstone, Goldman Sachs, Hathaway Berkshire.
Warren Buffet /Hathaway Berkshire increased their holdings in NALCO just last November. (Timing is everything).
I took my wife to work this morning and you can smell the oil in the Air… I just want to cry… I am diabled and I fish everyday for food, what am I going to eat if they take away the fishing… I am truely sadden…
the valley girl offering tires to plug the spewing oil leak was the most inane interview ever. who booked this person and thought it compelling? wow, i know you are trying to compete with morning joe, but at least their banter is witty. this 'prodigy' was, like, totally not rad!
What was her name? That would absolutely work. It's like using one of those plastic things that keeps wine fresh; like an inflatable cork.
They should get the vented cap off the pipe, and stick the inflatable cork in it.
And speaking of rubber, I'm a bit confused about why they didn't do a junk shot before putting that vented cap on the pipe
It really too bad they did not listen to Alia before they cut off the riser pipe, She may have solved alot of their problems.
Israeli's can't leave. God would surley die because it is the Promised Land Helen...lol...besides how do you think America could continue the "Turmoil of the Oil Soil"? Israel is our base to enter the fray if Iran blows up the Gulf...
But Helen Thomas I do know this...3 years after Elvis died I was at a Party in Papillion, Nebraska and at that Party was a young lady that had a date with a former Israeli soldier. That young ladies father was President of Rentar Enterprises owned by Dr. Milton Ratner who was famous in his Israeli contributions. But here is the story...
That young lady took me to tour Father Flangan's Boy Town 3 days later and she told me that the former Israeli soldier she dated was one of the soldiers that dressed in civilian clothes andsnuck by night into the Palestenian tent city to toss hand grenades into some tents to incite violent protests shortly after Jimmy Carter had signed the Peace Accord with Begin and Sadat .
OHIO TORANDOS – I know the nuclear plant evacuated, but is there a plan if one of our nuclear facilities is hit by a tornato or is there no contingency plan for that either?
Thank you John & Kiran for reporting about this rally in support of Arizona law. I thought CNN won't cover it.
I want Coalition For Future American Workers to do more about stopping illegal immigration.
Why is everyone surprised that this leak is causing so much damage & taking so long to cap? From CBS news 11/09:
(CBS) An oil spill disaster that could rival the impact of the Exxon Valdez is playing out tonight off the coast of Australia. For 10 weeks, a crippled deep-water oil rig has been leaking millions of gallons into the ocean between Australia's northwest coast and the islands of Indonesia.
It is bringing to light the possible environmental impact when offshore drilling goes wrong, as CBS News correspondent John Blackstone reports.
With explosive gas spewing into the air and thousands of gallons of oil pouring into the water each day the spill began claiming sea snakes, birds and dolphins.
The blowout is thought to have been caused by a fracture in a pipe 8,000 feet beneath the sea floor. Again and again over two months the Thailand-based company that owns the rig tried and failed to plug the well.
"We remain committed and resolved to achieve our goal," said Jose Martins, chief financial officer of the company, Pttep Oil. "That may require a few more attempts."
Just how much has spilled is uncertain. Environmental groups say satellite photos show its spread across more than 9,000 square miles and estimate some 9 million gallons have poured into the ocean – nearly as much as the 11 million gallons that escaped from the Exxon Valdez in Alaska.
"There's no cleanup technology available on earth to clean up a spill that big," said Richard Charter of Defenders of Wildlife.
Pay attention Dave ... boycotting your local BP station will only put the average American that work at those stations out of work and not affect corporate headquarters.
I can't believe that I still see my fellow americans filling up thier gas tanks at gas stations supplied by BP. This just continues to add to thier profits!
Good Morning CNN!
Helen Thomas is another fine example of the death of the First Amendment in the US. Speak the truth then have to apologize for offending Israel. The US tolerates ethnic cleansing and genocide being practiced in Israel but wants to shut up anybody speaking out against it.
Really sad this is still going on 🙁 why are we doing stuff we cant fix if it breaks? are we that desperate or just that greedy?
Good Morning, CNN
Please, can someone plug the darn hole?